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Kyoto.京都在二次大戰是沒有被轟炸的城市之一，所以文化的力量，非常感人。","quality":0.102},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:29:23.666667+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:29:32.714286+08:00","text":"Churchill講京都文化是人類共同的遺產，不應該加以摧毀。","quality":0.69},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:29:34.571429+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:29:53.692308+08:00","text":"我們來看，1665年陳永華到臺灣，說服鄭經建立東寧國，但是他仍然崇尚中華文化，所以設孔廟、立聖學，因為永華知道中華文化的寶貴。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:29:55+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:30:03.818182+08:00","text":"結果康熙37年（1698年），主委，你知道吳興祚是誰嗎？","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:30:08+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:30:29.666667+08:00","text":"吳興祚不是只為「古文觀止」做序而已，吳興祚是一個儒將，替清軍打下金夏，使得鄭經跟陳永華必須退到臺灣，所以吳興祚這個儒將、陳永華這個儒將兩個是對陣的。","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:30:31+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:30:50.857143+08:00","text":"吳興祚序「古文觀止」；裡面222篇上起東周下迄明末，你去看它沒有元代文章。","quality":0.828},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:30:52+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:31:29.800000+08:00","text":"所以當他看到這本「古文觀止」，吳楚材叔姪兩人編出來以後，囅然以喜、非常高興，因為他知道元代蒙古人的文化不是華夏文化，而他在滿人的朝廷做官，他要維持中華文化，所以為「古文觀止」作序，這本「古文觀止」，後來也全部囊括有關於「古文觀止」的古文彙編。","quality":0.796},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:31:30.428571+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:31:42.666667+08:00","text":"我們可以看到吳興祚非常重視中華文化，跟陳永華一樣，所以這兩個敵對的將軍一樣重視中華文化。","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:31:44+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:32:01.750000+08:00","text":"文革十年及之後摧毀了中華文化，而中華文化好不容易保存在臺灣，我們故宮的國寶如果留在中國，絕對被毛澤東毀棄。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:32:03.909091+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:32:15.681818+08:00","text":"文化的力量非常重要，臺灣孔廟等保存非常傳統、完整的儒家中華文化。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:32:17+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:32:27.666667+08:00","text":"所以主委，您知道習近平要求他的解放軍將領要攻臺，有很多解放軍的將領不配合被免職，有沒有？","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:32:27.666667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-29T09:32:32+08:00","text":"其原因何在？","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"邱主任委員垂正","start":"2026-07-29T09:32:32+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:32:32.666667+08:00","text":"是，一連串的肅清。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:32:34+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:32:55.750000+08:00","text":"沒錯，很多解放軍的將領，他們知道殘餘的中華文化最經典的保存在臺灣，他們配合習近平來攻臺，所毀棄的是他們中華最珍貴的中華文化，所以不予配合而被免職。","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:32:57+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:33:04.866667+08:00","text":"解放軍也有英明的將領，我們不要全部說是他們的將領都是混蛋，他們也有英明的將領，跟吳興祚一樣。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:33:06+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:33:14.833333+08:00","text":"他們這些將領跟吳興祚一樣，在滿人的朝廷做官，內心所繫的仍然是中華文化，跟陳永華一樣。","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:33:16+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:33:39.666667+08:00","text":"所以如果我們現在繼續這樣下去，各位，張銘清來臺灣的時候去孔廟，在孔廟的榕樹下，有人讓他跌倒，如果是我，我會跟他介紹陳永華設孔廟的故事。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:33:42+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:34:01.428571+08:00","text":"陳永華跟鄭經這麼講，成湯以百里而王、文王七十里而興。","quality":0.739},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:34:04+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:34:26.400000+08:00","text":"臺灣沃野數千里，遠濱海外，且其俗醇；使國君能舉賢以助理，則十年生長、十年教養、十年成聚，三十年真可與中原相甲乙。","quality":0.708},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:34:28+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:34:41.714286+08:00","text":"我會把這些古文背給張銘清聽，然後講吳興祚重視中華文化的故事，那時候叫華夏文化，我不會把他推倒。","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:34:43.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:34:47.800000+08:00","text":"現在陸客不來，我們不去，喪失了文化交流的機會。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:34:49.631579+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:35:07.750000+08:00","text":"讓陸客來看中華文化在臺灣保存的狀態，讓我們的觀光客去告訴中國人，中華文化是可以跟民主、自由、法治融合的，不是互斥，這是一個很珍貴的交流、防衛臺灣的機制、軟性防衛。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:35:09+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:35:23.777778+08:00","text":"我們現在失聯不協尋，我看到你們沒有多少協尋到的成果，結果新聞卻是很大，這會產生寒蟬效應。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:35:25.888889+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:35:42.333333+08:00","text":"陸委會該柔而剛……威而鋼是你們講的，不是我講的，但陸委會好像吃了威而鋼，本末倒置。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:35:43.333333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:36:10.750000+08:00","text":"國防要強硬，結果陸委會比國防還強硬，捨近求遠，我們的副主委最近去越南考察回來，寫的報告裡面說要在越南考察，追尋臺、越、中智庫的交流，請問主委？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱主任委員垂正","start":"2026-07-29T09:36:10.750000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-29T09:36:12+08:00","text":"是，謝謝許委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:36:12+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:36:13.428571+08:00","text":"中智庫所謂者何？","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-29T09:36:15+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T09:36:16.428571+08:00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So please, when you bombard Japan, please skip Kyoto.京都在二次大戰是沒有被轟炸的城市之一，所以文化的力量，非常感人。Churchill講京都文化是人類共同的遺產，不應該加以摧毀。","我們來看，1665年陳永華到臺灣，說服鄭經建立東寧國，但是他仍然崇尚中華文化，所以設孔廟、立聖學，因為永華知道中華文化的寶貴。結果康熙37年（1698年），主委，你知道吳興祚是誰嗎？吳興祚不是只為「古文觀止」做序而已，吳興祚是一個儒將，替清軍打下金夏，使得鄭經跟陳永華必須退到臺灣，所以吳興祚這個儒將、陳永華這個儒將兩個是對陣的。吳興祚序「古文觀止」；裡面222篇上起東周下迄明末，你去看它沒有元代文章。所以當他看到這本「古文觀止」，吳楚材叔姪兩人編出來以後，囅然以喜、非常高興，因為他知道元代蒙古人的文化不是華夏文化，而他在滿人的朝廷做官，他要維持中華文化，所以為「古文觀止」作序，這本「古文觀止」，後來也全部囊括有關於「古文觀止」的古文彙編。我們可以看到吳興祚非常重視中華文化，跟陳永華一樣，所以這兩個敵對的將軍一樣重視中華文化。","文革十年及之後摧毀了中華文化，而中華文化好不容易保存在臺灣，我們故宮的國寶如果留在中國，絕對被毛澤東毀棄。文化的力量非常重要，臺灣孔廟等保存非常傳統、完整的儒家中華文化。所以主委，您知道習近平要求他的解放軍將領要攻臺，有很多解放軍的將領不配合被免職，有沒有？其原因何在？"],["邱主任委員垂正：是，一連串的肅清。"],["許委員忠信：沒錯，很多解放軍的將領，他們知道殘餘的中華文化最經典的保存在臺灣，他們配合習近平來攻臺，所毀棄的是他們中華最珍貴的中華文化，所以不予配合而被免職。解放軍也有英明的將領，我們不要全部說是他們的將領都是混蛋，他們也有英明的將領，跟吳興祚一樣。他們這些將領跟吳興祚一樣，在滿人的朝廷做官，內心所繫的仍然是中華文化，跟陳永華一樣。所以如果我們現在繼續這樣下去，各位，張銘清來臺灣的時候去孔廟，在孔廟的榕樹下，有人讓他跌倒，如果是我，我會跟他介紹陳永華設孔廟的故事。陳永華跟鄭經這麼講，成湯以百里而王、文王七十里而興。臺灣沃野數千里，遠濱海外，且其俗醇；使國君能舉賢以助理，則十年生長、十年教養、十年成聚，三十年真可與中原相甲乙。我會把這些古文背給張銘清聽，然後講吳興祚重視中華文化的故事，那時候叫華夏文化，我不會把他推倒。","現在陸客不來，我們不去，喪失了文化交流的機會。讓陸客來看中華文化在臺灣保存的狀態，讓我們的觀光客去告訴中國人，中華文化是可以跟民主、自由、法治融合的，不是互斥，這是一個很珍貴的交流、防衛臺灣的機制、軟性防衛。我們現在失聯不協尋，我看到你們沒有多少協尋到的成果，結果新聞卻是很大，這會產生寒蟬效應。陸委會該柔而剛……威而鋼是你們講的，不是我講的，但陸委會好像吃了威而鋼，本末倒置。國防要強硬，結果陸委會比國防還強硬，捨近求遠，我們的副主委最近去越南考察回來，寫的報告裡面說要在越南考察，追尋臺、越、中智庫的交流，請問主委？"],["邱主任委員垂正：是，謝謝許委員。"],["許委員忠信：中智庫所謂者何？中智庫所謂者何？"],["邱主任委員垂正：是，謝謝……"],["許委員忠信：中國有智庫嗎？"],["邱主任委員垂正：謝謝許委員，您剛剛的質詢是不是允許我用短短的時間給你回復？"],["許委員忠信：好。"],["邱主任委員垂正：第一個，你剛剛提到兩岸正常、健康、有序，特別是文化交流的重要，我們沒有放棄，雖然中共對於我們各種的複合性施壓那麼嚴峻，我們始終仍然在推動健康、有序、去統戰化的這些交流，我們現在仍然有很多的文化藝術表演，我們非常認同過去傳統的、古典的中國大陸的文化在臺灣都保存下來。"],["許委員忠信：中國文化最經典的……"],["邱主任委員垂正：像古漢語這些研究，我們遠遠超過中國大陸，這部分我們仍然在去除統戰化的因素，仍然在進行兩岸這方面正常、健康、有序的交流。"],["許委員忠信：沒錯，我在臺大學德文的時候，我的德文老師李福克下課時在看一本我看不懂的漢文經典。"],["邱主任委員垂正：是，甚至最燦爛、最完美的文化是在金門的閩南建築文化，超越所有中國福建……"],["許委員忠信：是，所以攻打臺灣是摧毀僅存的中華文化，對不對？"],["邱主任委員垂正：第二個，您剛剛有提到……"],["許委員忠信：你說對不對嘛？攻打臺灣就是摧毀僅存的中華文化？"],["邱主任委員垂正：古典的中華文化在臺灣都落地生根，而且我們都保存得很好。"],["許委員忠信：攻打臺灣就是摧毀古典的中華文化，對不對？"],["邱主任委員垂正：對，最精美的。"],["許委員忠信：沒錯。"],["邱主任委員垂正：另外，你剛剛提到我們失聯不協尋，這不是事實，我們公布就是要……其實我們希望那個數字能夠降低，因為沒辦法降低，每一件我們都很揪心，我們都跟各部會合作，如何去關懷這些報案的人、協助報案的人，我們希望把它降低，我們也要跟對岸說，你們要發揮既有的這些相關機制來確保我們國人的安全，你不能一直拉攏我們國人赴大陸交流，卻對他的人身安全完全不顧。"],["許委員忠信：贊同。"],["邱主任委員垂正：第二個，最後要跟您報告有關我們沈副主委去越南參訪，因為越南對於陸委會去那邊，他們很多智庫也很重視，也希望我們到任何重要的國家，如果有中國大陸的智庫會來交流……"],["許委員忠信：中國大陸有智庫嗎？主委，您能不能跟我教導一下？中國大陸是哪一個智庫？"],["邱主任委員垂正：我想它有很多智庫，因為時間上關係，我可以去跟您報告目前我們交往的中國大陸相關有涉台智庫、有國際關係智庫、有各種南海……"],["許委員忠信：所以你的智庫定義比較廣？"],["邱主任委員垂正：也是他們的相關機構或是政府相關的這些研究機構。"],["許委員忠信：那不是智庫，有關智庫的定義，我不想在這裡浪費時間。"],["邱主任委員垂正：他跟我們西方的獨立智庫不一樣。"],["許委員忠信：你的智庫是廣義的。"],["邱主任委員垂正：是，好。"],["許委員忠信：謝謝主委。"],["邱主任委員垂正：謝謝許委員，謝謝。"],["主席：下一位請蘇巧慧委員發言質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":156,"meet_id":"委員會-11-5-15-20","speakers":["廖先翔","許忠信","蘇巧慧","張宏陸","王美惠","吳琪銘","王鴻薇","黃捷","李坤城","李柏毅","許宇甄","謝龍介","葉元之","翁曉玲","徐欣瑩","張智倫","高金素梅","吳宗憲","林德福"],"page_start":81,"meetingDate":["2026-07-29"],"gazette_id":"1156801","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1156801_00006"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、邀請大陸委員會主任委員、內政部部長、法務部、警政署、移民署、財團法人海峽交流基金\n會就「國人赴陸失聯情況及政府因應作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢；二、邀請內政部部長、警\n政署署長就「『萊爾校長』小編遭警突襲查水表事件，檢視警察執法標準與行政中立」進行專題\n報告，並備質詢","agenda_id":"1156801_00010"}}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}