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證的重點與目標，以及國防部如何藉此進一步強化和海巡之間的應處能力？","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:17:59+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:17:59.800000+08:00","text":"這是第一點。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:18:00.222222+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:18:11.800000+08:00","text":"另外，我們要如何在這次演練當中，納入可能與友盟國家之間需要聯合協作反封鎖的做法，以貼近實際的情境？","quality":0.978},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:18:12.375000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:18:14.812500+08:00","text":"這部分請部長說明一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"顧部長立雄","start":"2026-08-05T09:18:16.470588+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:18:56.850000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，在您提到反封鎖部分，演練重點包括聯合情監偵共享、海上目標監控還有通報，當然也包括反封鎖的護航、海上突發狀況處置以及軍民整合協調機制，主要就是模擬中共海警、公務船跟民兵船等等這些複合式襲擾的態樣，來驗證我們各級指揮鏈路、情資交換以及兵力運用的效能，確保海上交通線跟重要物資運補安全。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"顧部長立雄","start":"2026-08-05T09:18:57.555556+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:19:23+08:00","text":"這部分我們會跟海巡共同進行，依照我們的支援協定，我們要共同執行海域監控跟應變處置，所以海巡在執法任務有支援需求的時候，我們國軍就會依規定派遣適切兵力應處，進行平時協作、戰時支援的關係。好。","quality":0.884},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:19:23.555556+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:20:11.529412+08:00","text":"延續中共常態性巡弋的問題，我們想要了解中共在臺海周邊海域，除了海軍、海警、公務船混合式運用之外，他們還包括科研船在進行灰帶侵擾，同樣也越來越頻繁，在上個月我們的專報當中也有提到，他們藉由海洋科學研究的名義，到我們東部海域和東沙島附近的水域活動，並且投放許多科學儀器，實際可能是在進行有軍事價值的水文資訊蒐集，甚至是進行水下的監偵追蹤，也攸關他們潛艦作戰的環境探測。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:20:12+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:20:17.714286+08:00","text":"關於這些侵擾活動，我們第一線會是由海巡進行應對。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:20:18.142857+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:20:35.782609+08:00","text":"我想請教部長，現階段中共運用的可能是軍民兩用性質的船舶，在臺灣東部海域進行探測活動，對於我們的防衛部署是否會造成什麼影響？","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:20:36.230769+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:20:45.826087+08:00","text":"這些他們所謂的科研船若是在我們的經濟海域頻繁活動，國防部如何辨別他的意圖及威脅樣態？","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:20:46.222222+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:20:49.777778+08:00","text":"我們又會採取什麼樣的應處作為？","quality":1},{"speaker":"侯次長嘉倫","start":"2026-08-05T09:20:52+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:20:52.875000+08:00","text":"委員好，我是作計室次長。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"侯次長嘉倫","start":"2026-08-05T09:20:53+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:21:27+08:00","text":"針對剛剛委員提問海洋船在那邊放相關的感測器，那都是屬於戰場經營的部分，我們的對應也是要從事相關的戰場經營，對於這些相關的應處跟監偵，我們都持續密注，然後納入處置作為的想定裡面，並與海巡署密切協調聯繫，取得相關機制運作的處置作為之後，再納入研討。好。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"顧部長立雄","start":"2026-08-05T09:21:28.615385+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:21:47.846154+08:00","text":"剛剛您提到有關非軍方的海警船跟公務船舶，這個部分當然先由海巡進行應處，而剛剛已經講過了，如果有任何需要我們支援的部分，我們會跟他們進行協作。","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:21:49+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:21:50.833333+08:00","text":"國防部的部分就是協助海巡？","quality":1},{"speaker":"顧部長立雄","start":"2026-08-05T09:21:51+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:22:08.714286+08:00","text":"對，因為在屬於非軍方的部分，所應對的不管是海警船或科研船等等，都是由海巡先應對，但是有任何突發狀況的時候，我們會進行支援。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:22:09.187500+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:22:15.800000+08:00","text":"我請國防部要密切掌握，因為有可能是他們偽裝的民船。","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"顧部長立雄","start":"2026-08-05T09:22:16+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:22:23+08:00","text":"我們都會利用相關的情監偵手段進行識別。好。","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:22:23.476190+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:22:53.700000+08:00","text":"我們也看到中共持續在臺灣東南方及菲律賓以東的水域進行訓練，包括他們的航母編隊進行訓練以外，還有兩棲攻擊艦配合執行聯合演訓，展現出他們具備能夠走出第一島鏈、進入西太平洋的能力，有武力投射的部分，因此我們也不排除對這個部分進行關注。","quality":0.991},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:22:54.190476+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:23:12.750000+08:00","text":"因為他對於臺灣東部及外離島的威脅，我們看到國防部在7月的時候，有一個聯合防禦操演活動，有到綠島及蘭嶼實施登島防衛作戰演訓，也引起一陣討論。","quality":0.984},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:23:13.222222+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:23:20.750000+08:00","text":"這部分想請教部長，國防部評估東部外島在防衛作戰的角色為何？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:23:21.363636+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:23:30.769231+08:00","text":"在這次實施演練之後，是否會強化在東部地區的防衛能力，甚至可能增加相關的演訓頻率？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:23:31+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:23:32.600000+08:00","text":"有沒有可能？","quality":1},{"speaker":"顧部長立雄","start":"2026-08-05T09:23:33+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:23:50.055556+08:00","text":"我們任何演訓都是參酌敵情威脅，按照各種可能的行動設計想定狀況，所以有關外離島地區的部分，我們會深化戰場兵推演。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"顧部長立雄","start":"2026-08-05T09:23:54+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:24:01.736842+08:00","text":"我們是防衛作戰，有主場優勢，至於詳細的細節部分，可能沒有辦法再跟委員……","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"陳委員俊宇","start":"2026-08-05T09:24:02+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:24:05.666667+08:00","text":"不是對應式的防衛演訓？","quality":1},{"speaker":"顧部長立雄","start":"2026-08-05T09:24:07.941176+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T09:24:24.750000+08: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