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ppb，我們是訂這個，所以我們並沒有去訂脫膠原油或者是黃豆的食品安全衛生標準。","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:21:57.666667+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:22:12.714286+08:00","text":"當然就台糖而言，他拿的是脫膠原油，雖然驗收標準他無法通過，但是不等於我們現在所公布的食品油脂超標，這個是不相等的。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:22:13+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:22:19.833333+08:00","text":"所以從法律義務上來講，他當然是沒有通報的義務，這個我想是很清楚的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:22:20+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:22:28.444444+08:00","text":"但是大家希望食安大家共同把關，人人有責，大家都來通報，這個我們絕對是鼓勵的。對啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:22:28.888889+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:22:34.750000+08:00","text":"就是單純的期待跟法律課以的義務是兩件事啦！","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:22:35+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:22:44.625000+08:00","text":"我們當然也希望不只台糖，任何公司，甚至於一般的民眾知道了以後就通報。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:22:45+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:22:54.642857+08:00","text":"只是說這個不應該當作責任，然後把它引爆成一個政治的議題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:22:55+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:23:07.583333+08:00","text":"我覺得食安法該修的我們趕快來修，這個案子討論太久了。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:23:13.333333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:23:14+08:00","text":"說真的！","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:23:15.333333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:23:21.625000+08:00","text":"衛福部管的就已經夠多了，食藥署管的也很多。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:23:22+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:23:27.666667+08:00","text":"從藥品到化妝品，到柴米油鹽……可能柴沒有啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:23:28+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:23:33.250000+08:00","text":"醬醋茶都歸你們，肉製品也歸你們。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:23:34+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:23:42.583333+08:00","text":"有沒有那麼多的人力跟財力可以去支應少部分人的期待？","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:23:43+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:23:45.750000+08:00","text":"我為什麼說少部分人的期待？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:23:46+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:23:51.625000+08:00","text":"因為我自己的觀察，可能澎湖比較偏遠。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:23:52.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:00.600000+08:00","text":"說真的，這段時間在澎湖，並沒有很多民眾跟我反映油脂的問題。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:01+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:03.750000+08:00","text":"因為我們很快就讓它下架了！對！","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:04+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:16.750000+08:00","text":"我們在7月2號就發布，7月3號那個油品就下架了，然後到7月9號還擴大全面4到6月都下架，所以安全的用油是我們的責任，這個絕對沒有問題。對！","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:17+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:28.750000+08:00","text":"這個就是我講的，現在的食安法並沒有課以中央直接查廠的義務，你們目前只有成立專案嘛！","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:30.142857+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:30.714286+08:00","text":"對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:31.272727+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:35.666667+08:00","text":"查廠的直接是在第四十一條規定，就是地方政府……","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:35.666667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:36.666667+08:00","text":"地方政府嘛！","quality":0},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:36+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:37.833333+08:00","text":"必要的時候，中央當然也可以來做。對！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:40+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:43.846154+08:00","text":"所謂的必要，坦白講，就是風暴產生以後才會有必要啦！","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:44+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:48.769231+08:00","text":"要不然，你們也沒有那麼多的人力跟資源可以去……","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:49.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:50.600000+08:00","text":"是，查廠在地方。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:51.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:52.750000+08:00","text":"查廠的責任是在地方嘛！對。","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:24:53.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:24:58.818182+08:00","text":"有關中央的部分，就是第一時間應該下架的也都下架完了嘛！對。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:25:01+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:25:03.727273+08:00","text":"這個專題已經討論好幾次了啦！","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:25:04+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:25:08.666667+08:00","text":"我從第一次就講，該修法就趕快修嘛！","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:25:09.545455+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:25:22.666667+08:00","text":"立法院覺得必須要課以衛福部跟食藥署很大的查廠義務，那也可以討論嘛！","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:25:23.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:25:32.666667+08:00","text":"相對應的人力跟經費，大家必須要共同來支持，就只有這樣子嘛！","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:25:33+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:25:45.571429+08:00","text":"我一直覺得把民生問題當作政治問題來炒作，其實我不大喜歡啦！","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:25:46+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:25:47.714286+08:00","text":"我真的不大喜歡啦！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:25:48+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:25:58.600000+08:00","text":"我覺得我們浪費太多時間在討論這個議題上面，而且可能跟真正的民意有一點脫鈎。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:25:59+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:26:27.571429+08:00","text":"就是像部長剛剛回答的，民意基層的聲音可能在我們下架完成的時候就結束了，那接下來我們行政跟立法部門應該做的，就是好好地坐下來趕快修法，防止下一次不幸事件的產生。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:26:28+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:26:29.750000+08:00","text":"這個才是更重要的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:26:30.583333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:26:48.300000+08:00","text":"我剛剛聽沈伯洋委員在問，我還是簡單問一個修法的問題，就是通報責任的對象。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:26:49+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:26:52.500000+08:00","text":"我們在修法的時候，院版已經提出了嘛！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:26:53+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:26:58.454545+08:00","text":"有沒有擴大賦予哪一些人？有。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:26:59.571429+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:27:04.777778+08:00","text":"通報的責任除了現有的食品業者之外，我們擴大到檢驗單位。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:27:05+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:27:07.769231+08:00","text":"檢驗單位我第一次質詢就講了嘛！對。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:27:08+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:27:18.777778+08:00","text":"第三個就是HACCP的認證單位，他也要通報，等於二級品管的也要通報。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:27:19.545455+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:27:26.733333+08:00","text":"一級品管是廠商的自驗，所以他自設的實驗室以後也要通報。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:27:27+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:27:39.846154+08:00","text":"不只是第二級品管的外部實驗室，二級品管有外部的認證單位去查核HACCP的，他發現異常也要通報，他檢驗也要通報，所以我們把通報的對象都擴大了。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:27:40+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:27:49.833333+08:00","text":"就是通報的程序要怎麼簡化、精準，要不然應該是只要有檢驗了，就通報一下。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:27:50+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:27:57.428571+08:00","text":"現在的電子處理其實也不難，有通報就可以……","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:27:58+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:01+08:00","text":"我們可以更早預警。對！","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:28:04+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:06.625000+08:00","text":"還是要跟兩位致歉啦！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:28:07+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:11.736842+08:00","text":"因為我覺得今天確實是不應該請你們上台的。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:28:12+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:15.785714+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的指教，在未來修法的時候還請您多多指導。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:28:16+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:18.666667+08:00","text":"好，大家一起努力。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:28:19+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:28.600000+08:00","text":"我想食安大家都很重視，並不代表大家對政治議題很重視，這是兩回事。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:28:29+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:35.800000+08:00","text":"我剛剛講了，把食安問題當成政治問題，這個本身就是一種錯誤。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"楊委員曜","start":"2026-08-05T15:28:36+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:37.777778+08:00","text":"好，謝謝部長，謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-08-05T15:28:38.666667+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:39.666667+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-05T15:28:40.166667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:42.166667+08:00","text":"好，謝謝楊曜委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-05T15:28:42.466667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-05T15:28:44.752381+08:00","text":"接著請劉建國委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}