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"quality":0.949},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:49:27.222222+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:49:51.818182+08:00","text":"因為時間的關係，其實我還有兩個題目想要請教一下，第二個題目我就直接要求了，因為我們上次說社宅候補系統應該落實資訊公開，上次住都中心董事長也有表達預計9月就會有一站式的系統建置，大概9月會上線，請問這個系統現在還是如期嗎？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:49:53+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:49:59.818182+08:00","text":"就是查詢是候補第幾號，因為候補1號跟候補100號等待的時間會完全不一樣嘛！","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"花董事長敬群","start":"2026-08-12T10:50:00+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:50:03+08:00","text":"我今天沒有準備到這個資料，我回去之後馬上再把這個資料送給委員。","quality":0.517},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:50:04.176471+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:50:08.800000+08:00","text":"因為上次說9月會上線是您這邊承諾的，所以麻煩您再提供一下。是。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:50:09.545455+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:50:23.818182+08:00","text":"最後我還是要請教部長，部長，我再跟您反映一下，這也是我們收到的、我們覺得有道理的陳情案，本席在這裡跟您就教，就是我們認為租屋補貼的分級其實可以再更細緻化一點。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:50:24.307692+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:51:02.714286+08:00","text":"我們現在是按照兩個標準，一個是所在地分三級，再來是不同身分會再加碼，所以會出現有一種類別我們覺得特別需要討論的，就是40歲以下單身在這樣子的狀況裡面會被全部打成一包，然後就是租金的補貼乘以1.2，可是40歲以下單身其實是最多元類型的狀況，有學生、有剛畢業、剛就業的，也有狀況已經不錯了，40歲有人甚至可以當老闆了，但是他還是單身，包括黃金單身漢、黃金單身女都有。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:51:03+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:51:21.750000+08:00","text":"所以40歲以下單身其實是一個最多元的狀況，有時候最需要被扶助、扶持的，也就是在這個部分，大家如果都打成一包都是乘以1.2的話，其實有時候心情上還是會覺得不是那麼公平，所以支持的部分是不是可以更多？","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:51:22.333333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:51:34.625000+08:00","text":"我們在這裡就直接建議是不是可以考慮研議一下，在40歲以下租屋補貼的部分還有機會再細緻化？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-08-12T10:51:35+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:51:40.833333+08:00","text":"報告委員，我想這是有可能的，因為我們一直在累計滾動調查。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-08-12T10:51:41+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:51:50.750000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告一下，在我們的租金補貼91.9萬戶裡面，其中的單身青年已經有52萬戶……對。","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-08-12T10:51:51.214286+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:51:54.800000+08:00","text":"這52萬戶裡面，我們可以再細緻區分，就像委員剛剛講的……","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:51:55.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:51:56.800000+08:00","text":"其實就是就學和剛畢業的部分。","quality":0.538},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-08-12T10:51:57+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:51:59.833333+08:00","text":"針對剛畢業或正在就學的，是不是可以再就租金補貼做細緻的分級……","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:00+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:01.272727+08:00","text":"就是他如果有學籍嘛。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:02+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:02.800000+08:00","text":"再加碼補貼。對！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:03.142857+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:07.636364+08:00","text":"這個部分的話，譬如說跟教育部勾稽，或者是跟勞動部勾稽……","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:07.636364+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:08.636364+08:00","text":"研議一下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:08+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:08.833333+08:00","text":"我們會做研議。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:09+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:09.888889+08:00","text":"好，謝謝部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:10.111111+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:10.777778+08:00","text":"以上，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:11.277778+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:12.420635+08:00","text":"休息5分鐘。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:12.720635+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:13.863492+08:00","text":"休息（10時52分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:14.163492+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:15.877778+08:00","text":"繼續開會（11時5分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:16.177778+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:17.892063+08:00","text":"我們繼續開會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:18.192063+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:40.192063+08:00","text":"在吳琪銘委員質詢以前要先跟委員會抱歉，因為在上半場有關本席以及王美惠委員所質詢的事項，同仁跟部長所提供的資訊與事實可能有一些落差，所以是不是先請部長補充說明一下？","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:40.492063+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:52:50.777778+08:00","text":"謝謝召委，我們在備詢的過程當中有一些資訊的落差，我想在這個地方跟大家報告一下。","quality":0.056},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-08-12T10:52:51.077778+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:53:29.649206+08:00","text":"關於廖委員所提到有關白匏湖的案件，原來是編列1.59億元，114年被刪1.24億元，到114年追加預算的時候是追加1.03億元，那個時候是在8月29日三讀通過，因為擔心要處理其他的開發或是其他相關的行政程序會來不及，所以我們在115年保留1.03億元的預算，到目前為止，還沒有完成這個保留預算的執行，在115年6月18日報行政院，行政院還沒有核定下來。","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-08-12T10:53:29.949206+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:53:57.377778+08:00","text":"關於王美惠委員所提到有關嘉義「安寮好室」的部分，跟王委員補充報告一下，「安寮好室」如果有土石方出現狀況的時候，我們會由國土署安排、協調地方的土資場來協助處理土石的去化方向，然後讓社會住宅的進度比較快一點、加速完成。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-12T10:53:57.677778+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:54:13.392063+08:00","text":"我想要再做更精確的補充，還有落差2,100萬是補助給新北市政府，然後其實也是有含在不同的項目裡面，但是這個就跟中央的預算無關。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-12T10:54:13.692063+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-12T10:54:19.406349+08:00","text":"好，我們繼續進行詢答，接下來請吳琪銘委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}