{"error":false,"id":["170982"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":170982,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170982","日期":"2026-08-14","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"院會-11-5-22","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第5會期第22次會議","屆":11,"會期":5,"會次":22,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"院會","標題":"第11屆第5會期第22次會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2026-08-14T09:10:32+08:00","結束時間":"2026-08-14T09:13:45+08:00","影片長度":"00:03:13","支援功能":["ai-transcript"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/bc30d1f72d5c71c1b396c2377be382726b76561ae6d5843aca5e23e1b7274040ac88c721d118b9685ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"林倩綺","委員發言時間":"09:10:32 - 09:13:45","會議時間":"2026-08-14T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"第11屆第5會期第22次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院內政委員會報告審查內政部函送國家住宅及都市更新中心115年度預算書案。\n二、8月14日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。）","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9.227843750000002,"end":13.007843750000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":13.56471875,"end":18.12096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":18.96471875,"end":24.44909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":25.140968750000003,"end":28.735343750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":28.988468750000003,"end":40.05846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":40.68284375,"end":53.744093750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":54.21659375,"end":63.345968750000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":63.649718750000005,"end":82.66784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":83.03909375,"end":88.70909375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":89.04659375,"end":122.52659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":123.28596875000001,"end":125.63159375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":125.96909375000001,"end":145.51034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":145.64534375,"end":191.71409375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":192.05159375000002,"end":192.45659375000002}],"whisperx":[{"start":0,"end":13.200000000000001,"text":"主席福貴同仁媒體朋友還有全國民眾大家好"},{"start":13.200000000000001,"end":15.52,"text":"國際經驗不擾民生"},{"start":15.52,"end":18.44,"text":"臺灣演習卻讓全民卡網"},{"start":18.44,"end":22.96,"text":"本席今天在這邊談這幾天讓許多民眾有感不變的"},{"start":22.96,"end":24.8,"text":"城鎮任性演習"},{"start":24.8,"end":28.92,"text":"政府首度大規模實施行動網路降速"},{"start":29.080000000000002,"end":35.760000000000005,"text":"讓中部北部共14個縣市在演習的期間大幅降低行動網路的速度"},{"start":35.760000000000005,"end":40.160000000000004,"text":"模擬通訊基礎設備受攻擊的極端情境"},{"start":40.160000000000004,"end":43.72,"text":"本席絕對支持強化通訊任性"},{"start":43.72,"end":48.040000000000006,"text":"但演習的目的應該是要提升國家的應變能力"},{"start":48.040000000000006,"end":50.160000000000004,"text":"而不是製造新的風險"},{"start":50.160000000000004,"end":53.84,"text":"更不能把人民的日常生活當成測試場"},{"start":53.84,"end":58.6,"text":"降速期間行動支付網路銀行共享運具"},{"start":58.68,"end":63.68,"text":"外送平台視訊通話雲端服務都可能受到影響"},{"start":63.68,"end":67.44,"text":"請問如果演習期間發生重大災害"},{"start":67.44,"end":70.84,"text":"金融異常交通事故或緊急事件"},{"start":70.84,"end":73.72,"text":"卻因政府主動降低通訊能力"},{"start":73.72,"end":79,"text":"反而使人民無法及時取得資訊聯繫或處理重要的交易"},{"start":79,"end":83.08,"text":"這究竟是在增加韌性還是暴露弱點"},{"start":83.08,"end":86.36,"text":"政府一再宣稱這個演習是參考日本"},{"start":86.36,"end":89.08,"text":"韓國等民主國家的經驗"},{"start":89.08,"end":93.8,"text":"本席在這邊要提醒日本防災通訊的演練是模擬"},{"start":93.8,"end":96.12,"text":"如果既有網路中斷"},{"start":96.12,"end":97.84,"text":"測試衛星電話"},{"start":97.84,"end":99.03999999999999,"text":"移動機立台"},{"start":99.03999999999999,"end":101.4,"text":"無線電等備援通訊"},{"start":101.4,"end":105.72,"text":"重點是如何讓失效的通訊恢復"},{"start":105.72,"end":109.28,"text":"其間並不影響商用網路與臺灣演習的方向"},{"start":109.28,"end":111.36,"text":"其實正好是相反的"},{"start":111.4,"end":115.28,"text":"韓國新加坡演習也以桌上推演"},{"start":115.28,"end":119.48,"text":"伺服器測試或模擬方式來進行"},{"start":119.48,"end":123.28,"text":"不干擾一般民眾的4G 5G的網路"},{"start":123.28,"end":126.03999999999999,"text":"國際經驗是模擬斷網"},{"start":126.03999999999999,"end":128.52,"text":"我們卻是真的刻意降速"},{"start":128.52,"end":130.8,"text":"根本不是同一件事情"},{"start":130.8,"end":133.92,"text":"更令人疑惑的是同樣都是任性演習"},{"start":133.92,"end":138.32,"text":"那麼為什麼中北部民眾必須承受通訊受限"},{"start":138.32,"end":140.16,"text":"而南部卻不要"},{"start":140.2,"end":143.64,"text":"那麼請問政府有標準嗎"},{"start":143.64,"end":145.84,"text":"請政府把標準給說清楚"},{"start":145.84,"end":148.56,"text":"如果政府認為降速卻有其必要"},{"start":148.56,"end":152.28,"text":"就應該公開說明為何只有中北部"},{"start":152.28,"end":155.28,"text":"如果政府認為部分地區可以不用降速"},{"start":155.28,"end":159.84,"text":"那更應該說明大規模影響人民通訊的必要性在哪裡"},{"start":159.84,"end":161.88,"text":"更重要的是演習之後"},{"start":161.88,"end":164.44,"text":"人民不知道政府到底演練了什麼"},{"start":164.44,"end":166.88,"text":"目前民眾最直接感受到的是"},{"start":166.88,"end":169.07999999999998,"text":"網路漫到驚呼癱瘓"},{"start":169.12,"end":172,"text":"卻沒有看清楚演練指標跟成果"},{"start":172,"end":174.32000000000002,"text":"本席呼籲未來通訊演練"},{"start":174.32000000000002,"end":176.60000000000002,"text":"應該先採取封閉測試"},{"start":176.60000000000002,"end":179.64000000000001,"text":"模擬斷網以及備援設備的切換"},{"start":179.64000000000001,"end":183.12,"text":"避免大規模的干擾民眾日常通訊"},{"start":183.12,"end":184.60000000000002,"text":"演習可以求真"},{"start":184.60000000000002,"end":185.92000000000002,"text":"但不能擾民"},{"start":185.92000000000002,"end":187.32000000000002,"text":"任性要增加"},{"start":187.32000000000002,"end":188.68,"text":"但不能因為演習"},{"start":188.68,"end":192.12,"text":"反而讓國家短暫陷入脆弱"},{"start":192.12,"end":192.64000000000001,"text":"謝謝"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}