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09:26:17.555556+08:00","text":"其實我們一直用這個有限的空間希望幫更多忙。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"陳委員亭妃","start":"2026-08-19T09:26:18.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:26:49.777778+08:00","text":"次長，過去我們在全運會曾經得到26連霸，那是非常難得的，可是當我們沒有這個基層訓練站之後，成績就往下了，我們的連霸就不見了，但是當基層訓練站再回到臺南的時候，我們的成績又回來了，所以這個訓練站對臺南來講太重要了。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"陳委員亭妃","start":"2026-08-19T09:26:51.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:27:02.777778+08:00","text":"如果我們可以再升級，變成國家級的桌球訓練中心，那更不一樣，所以次長，這個部分真的要拜託。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T09:27:03+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:27:15.909091+08:00","text":"報告委員，對於基層訓練站這件事情，我們現在的做法是我們固定給地方縣市政府一個額度，由地方政府去安排它的配比是在哪裡，所以我們基本上是給一個額度，至於這個額度是不是不夠……","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員亭妃","start":"2026-08-19T09:27:16+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:27:29.800000+08:00","text":"不一樣，次長，你歸到市政府這一塊是有一個額度，但我所講的，我們在桌球館的這個部分是獨立的，不是在這一筆。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T09:27:29.800000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-19T09:27:30.800000+08:00","text":"我知道。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員亭妃","start":"2026-08-19T09:27:30+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:27:57.888889+08:00","text":"這一筆他們都是以社團去處理，這個我了解，但我講的不是在這個區塊，這個區塊就是讓小朋友快樂的學習、快樂的成長，然後從這裡面去發掘優秀的、有資質的，我們做的是這個部分，然後我們再把這些有資質的轉介到基層訓練站，我們是有兩塊，一定要做這樣的搭配。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T09:27:58+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:28:15.833333+08:00","text":"沒錯，跟委員報告，這個跟我們要做的方向完全符合，我們就是希望透過更基層的參與，是從擴大參與的人口開始，再慢慢的當選手，當小孩子自己有興趣，也有這樣的talent，當他願意往競技方向走的時候，我們再讓他進到基層訓練站去。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T09:28:16+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:28:21.818182+08:00","text":"剛剛委員所講的俱樂部的概念，是我們全民署努力在推動的一個大方向。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"陳委員亭妃","start":"2026-08-19T09:28:22+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:28:51.777778+08:00","text":"這個很重要，過去是體育署，現在是運動部，我們所講的就是，我們要讓我們的國力等於是我們所有體育發展的方向跟重點，我每次出去，臺南之光、臺灣之光，多數都是從體育可以拿到金牌，然後去創造臺灣之光。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員亭妃","start":"2026-08-19T09:28:53+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:29:18.714286+08:00","text":"次長，28年，我對桌球著墨太深了，所以我希望未來我們可以把桌球變成樣板，能夠推動到其他的單項運動賽事，這個叫做一個模板、模組，當有這個模板、模組，我們就可以推動到其他的單項，這才是最重要的。","quality":0.988},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T09:29:19+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:29:19.750000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員亭妃","start":"2026-08-19T09:29:20.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:29:32.833333+08:00","text":"次長，拜託，我相信未來臺南在整個運動的轉變跟轉型會不一樣，我們也拜託運動部要全力支援我們，這個OK嗎？","quality":0.978},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T09:29:33+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:29:55.750000+08:00","text":"我們一定會這樣子做，因為我們就是要建構新的模式出來，過去是以菁英運動員培訓的概念在訓練選手，其實應該是從最基層小孩子的喜歡參與、樂於享受運動開始，這就是我們全民運動署在努力推動社區俱樂部的一個大的政策方向，方向跟委員要求的完全一致。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"陳委員亭妃","start":"2026-08-19T09:29:56.125000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:30:03.750000+08:00","text":"次長，你知道為什麼以前我們都是用菁英體育選手這樣的概念嗎？","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"陳委員亭妃","start":"2026-08-19T09:30:04+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:30:42.800000+08:00","text":"這些菁英都是爸爸媽媽用了多少的力、多少的經費自己栽培，自己栽培到某一個階段，可是現在少子化之後，說真的，爸爸媽媽都寧可讓小孩子不要去走這麼辛苦的一條體育路，所以我們應該把體育的發展建構成一個全民都能進入，而且全民都能夠安心，爸爸媽媽也安心，如果自己的小孩子有資質，這樣一步一步走，甚至到未來他的出路都沒有問題，這樣子這一條路才是暢通的。","quality":0.948},{"speaker":"陳委員亭妃","start":"2026-08-19T09:30:43.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:31:13.666667+08:00","text":"說真的，這也是我們部長他自己最感同身受的，過去的他，我相信走的是一條非常辛苦的培養運動員的路，可是現在我們希望藉著他的辛苦，能夠展開更多培養的階層，這樣子才能夠讓下一代的運動選手、臺灣之光一個一個再次呈現，這個再拜託次長，謝謝。","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T09:31:14+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:31:14.500000+08:00","text":"是，沒問題，謝謝委員。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-19T09:31:14.666667+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T09:31:17.833333+08:00","text":"謝謝陳亭妃委員，次長先回座，陳亭妃委員時間掌握得非常精準。","quality":0.346},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-19T09:31:18.333333+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-19T09:31:21.476190+08:00","text":"下一位請鄭正鈐委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}