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們再加強"},{"start":466.4,"end":468.4,"text":"體育的設施"},{"start":468.4,"end":470.4,"text":"多一點"},{"start":470.4,"end":472.4,"text":"不然你死心"},{"start":472.47999999999996,"end":474.47999999999996,"text":"六都現在這些軍會"},{"start":474.47999999999996,"end":476.47999999999996,"text":"多得不得了"},{"start":476.47999999999996,"end":478.47999999999996,"text":"不要這樣做"},{"start":478.47999999999996,"end":480.47999999999996,"text":"給台灣公平一下好不好"},{"start":480.47999999999996,"end":482.47999999999996,"text":"我有很多句話要提出來"},{"start":482.47999999999996,"end":484.47999999999996,"text":"請你多多指示"},{"start":484.47999999999996,"end":486.47999999999996,"text":"我們早晚未來不講話"},{"start":486.47999999999996,"end":488.47999999999996,"text":"我又會苗栗"},{"start":488.47999999999996,"end":490.47999999999996,"text":"來發聲謝謝"},{"start":490.47999999999996,"end":492.47999999999996,"text":"這個題目加一個北中南苗"},{"start":492.47999999999996,"end":494.47999999999996,"text":"北中南苗"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:00:24.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:00:29.129412+08:00","text":"（11時）謝謝主席，叫我三次讓大家有印象。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:00:29.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:00:36.680000+08:00","text":"首先，請運動部黃政務次長。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-19T11:00:36.680000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-19T11:00:42.520000+08:00","text":"請運動部黃政務次長。","quality":0.111},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T11:00:42.520000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:00:43.280000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:00:43.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:00:44.780000+08:00","text":"政次好。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:00:45.942857+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:01:15.421176+08:00","text":"今天的主題是「參考國際經驗加速推動我國大型多功能智慧運動館建設：完善北中南區域佈局、健全開發營運機制、改善職業運動環境、促進運動產業發展、擴大展演及觀光經濟之綜合評估」的報告。","quality":0.887},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:01:16.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:01:34.080000+08:00","text":"其實看到這個主題，我心裡很不舒服，但是我覺得主席是有目的的，他寫北中南大都市，他在為高雄爭取更多，當然這個心態是值得鼓勵，而我為什麼不舒服？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:01:34.293333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:01:34.506667+08:00","text":"你們想呢？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:01:35.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:02:12.422857+08:00","text":"你們現在都說北中南，不是臺北就是高雄、臺中、臺南，桃園、新北都是大大的巨蛋，大大的巨蛋指那幾個地方，而我現在要說的，這不是區域均衡，這是把城鄉差距拉大，我們永遠在犯這個毛病，哪一個票源多的地區，我就蓋大的給他們來爭取票源，所以我今天主要要跟你們討論的就是這一點，當然六都要，我們也不怎麼敢反對啦！","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:02:13.280000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:02:17.030000+08:00","text":"因為他們票多，召委又不給我多一點時間。","quality":0.471},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:02:17.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:02:28.110000+08:00","text":"我現在要問運動部，所有大型的運動功能廳都在六都裡面，這樣是合理還是不合理？","quality":0.794},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T11:02:28.960000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:02:48.037647+08:00","text":"大型運動場館的建設必須要考慮到未來的使用，的確，大型的場館最好是可以蓋在人口比較多、參賽比較多的地方，但是不表示人口少的地方不需要運動場館，只是場館的需求不需要那麼大而已。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:02:48.240000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:02:51.003636+08:00","text":"不需要那麼大，那需不需要有？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T11:02:51.280000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:02:51.940000+08:00","text":"當然要有！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:02:51.940000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-19T11:02:53.040000+08:00","text":"當然要。","quality":0},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-08-19T11:02:53.040000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:02:58.925000+08:00","text":"目前運動部的方向就是希望能夠縮小城鄉運動環境的差距。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:02:59.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:03:00.502857+08:00","text":"我看不是這樣啦！","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:03:00.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:03:37.152000+08:00","text":"你們在臺上講要縮小城鄉的差距，但是我講實在的，你們是擴大城鄉的差距，我只要求一項，我們苗栗縣大巨蛋在10年前蓋的，到現在十幾年了，那時沒有AI、沒有科技，只有在這邊，當然交通的問題也要考慮，像這種舊的小巨蛋，能不能補助我們來改善一下？","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:03:38.224000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:04:07.008000+08:00","text":"第二點，你們只有在大都市，你們說區域均衡，你們一點都沒有區域均衡，像我苗栗縣後龍、竹南的附近，我們到臺北市才40分鐘、到臺中市15分鐘、到高雄大概65分鐘，我們那邊可以蓋大巨蛋嗎？","quality":0.73},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:04:07.360000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:04:10.384000+08:00","text":"你們說要促進地方的觀光啊！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:04:10.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:04:16.133333+08:00","text":"苗栗大巨蛋把它設在那個地方，那不是很好嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-08-19T11:04:16.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-19T11:04:49.620000+08:00","text":"禮拜六、禮拜天把人潮帶進來，你不要以六都為範圍，如果你地點對的話，四面八方的人都會來這邊運動及觀光消費，我現在說真的，不要講完就忘了，像我們召委他為高雄一定還在爭取別的地方，我要跟你說這些事情不要這樣做啦！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