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priority。","quality":0.904},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:49:22+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:49:22.800000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝次長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:49:23.222222+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:49:28.789474+08:00","text":"我現在想跟您請教，因為鞭刑這件事是這陣子蠻火熱的議題。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:49:29.666667+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:49:40.625000+08:00","text":"我們在11月28號會辦鞭刑公投，民意的支持度非常高，高達95%，民主進步黨的支持者也高達66%，其實都很支持鞭刑。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:49:41.157895+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:49:43.842105+08:00","text":"我想請教一件事，就是衛福部對鞭刑的態度。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:49:44.230769+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:49:52.789474+08:00","text":"報告委員，這裡面會牽涉到到底鞭刑跟整個犯罪率之間的相關性如何。","quality":0.759},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:49:53.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:49:57.888889+08:00","text":"犯罪學裡面已經有很多研究，其實未必盡然，這是第一點，我想委員也是這方面的專家嘛。","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:49:58.421053+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:50:18.866667+08:00","text":"第二點，現在一旦採取這個方式，我必須要提醒，臺灣目前的人權公約也已經內國法化，這裡面會不會產生人權保障的一個……當然我們最主要還是要保護民眾，可是這裡面有沒有整個扞格的問題？","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:50:18.866667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:50:19.866667+08:00","text":"這是第二點。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:50:19+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:50:28.714286+08:00","text":"我了解，我想正面說法、反面說法，我們都掌握得非常清楚，今天站在質詢臺上，我只是想了解衛福部的態度是支持還是反對。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:50:29.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:50:39.846154+08:00","text":"當然，這涉及價值選項，我們其實也沒有強迫衛福部一定要接受是或否，只是想了解中央主管機關衛福部對鞭刑這件事的態度。","quality":0.942},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:50:40.470588+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:50:49+08:00","text":"報告委員，因為這牽涉到我們的刑罰政策，還有整個牽涉到憲法及刑法，這是刑事法律的……","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:50:49.380952+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:50:52.809524+08:00","text":"我問一句話，是絕對反對還是絕對贊成？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:50:53+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:50:53.857143+08:00","text":"還是還在思考中？","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:50:55.333333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:01.823529+08:00","text":"報告委員，這是刑事法律的一個政策問題，這不是衛福部能夠單方面回應的。謝謝。","quality":0.788},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:02+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:02.545455+08:00","text":"所以是？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:03.090909+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:10.850000+08:00","text":"答案好像不是絕對贊成，不是絕對反對，也不是還在思考中，好像變成有一點難以回答嗎？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:12.263158+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:15.875000+08:00","text":"報告委員，因為這是屬於所謂國家的人權跟刑罰政策。","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:16+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:22.842105+08:00","text":"沒有問題，所以衛福部到目前還沒有形成態度，沒問題，我今天站在質詢臺上，只是想知道中央主管機關衛福部目前的態度。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:23.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:28.200000+08:00","text":"好，我請教另外一個問題，就是這一、兩天很火熱的新聞。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:29.428571+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:35.833333+08:00","text":"有位在臺大急診室等待的病患，結果就在等待12天的過程當中不幸離世了。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:36.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:45.833333+08:00","text":"我想了解一件事，通常急診壅塞有個原因，就是因為上面的病床關床，而關床的理由就是來自於護理人員不足。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:46.181818+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:49.818182+08:00","text":"我想問這個案件有沒有涉及護理人力荒的問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:50+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:51.800000+08:00","text":"衛福部有沒有掌握？","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:52.222222+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:51:58.615385+08:00","text":"報告委員，據我們的了解跟護理荒應該……","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:51:59+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:52:02.800000+08:00","text":"所以你們目前鎖定的原因跟護理人力荒沒有關係？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:52:02.800000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:52:03.800000+08:00","text":"就以這個個案而言。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:52:03+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:52:05.727273+08:00","text":"以這個個案來說沒有關係嘛。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:52:05.727273+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:52:07.050000+08:00","text":"是的，沒錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:52:07.050000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:52:19.800000+08:00","text":"我想護理人力荒現在在全國普遍的存在，這個案件我覺得可以讓我們去思考，到底病人上不去跟護理人員人力荒有沒有關係？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:52:20.100000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:52:27.846154+08:00","text":"如果沒有也沒有關係，可以讓我們進一步再去思考急診壅塞的問題，如果是護理人力荒所導致的關床要怎麼解決？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:52:28.187500+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:52:35.800000+08:00","text":"我最近一直聽到一些醫院的院長說：「得護理、得天下」，感覺是非常的寶貝我們護理人員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:52:35.800000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:52:36.800000+08:00","text":"當然、當然，護理人員……沒錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:52:36.166667+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:53:09+08:00","text":"非常的疼愛護理人員，但是這幾天也發生一件憾事，我前兩天才陪同衛福部金門醫院一位受霸凌的護理師開記者會，這其實就發生在衛福部的金門醫院，這看起來是一個個案問題，可是他背後其實有一個制度性的問題，例如請假制度的友善性，其次是霸凌的處理跟霸凌申訴機制的妥適性，另外有沒有赴陸被申誡的冤案問題。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:53:10+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:53:22.833333+08:00","text":"因為其實他不是公務人員，國家的法規制度並沒有要求他報備，可是這家醫院卻要求他事先報備，衛福部的金門醫院會不會增加法律所無之限制？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:53:23+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:53:34.818182+08:00","text":"如果用內規限制他，甚至剝奪他憲法上的遷徙自由，我覺得這個案件看似個案，可是後面有系統性的問題，是不是請衛福部關照？","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:53:34.818182+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:53:35.818182+08:00","text":"當然、當然。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:53:35+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:53:42.823529+08:00","text":"一來是讓這個個案得到妥適的照護跟後續的處理，再來就是去檢視這些制度的問題，可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:53:43+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:53:50.857143+08:00","text":"可以，沒問題，我知道委員向來都對這個問題非常、非常關心，我覺得金門醫院這個事情應該要通盤的討論和檢討。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:53:51+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:53:56.769231+08:00","text":"好，那這個案件是不是可以讓我們知道多久之後會有後續的結果？","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:53:57+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:04.842105+08:00","text":"我們目前正在處理當中，是不是我後續會請醫福會再跟委員做報告？","quality":0.821},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:05+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:07.785714+08:00","text":"了解，我們希望不是然後就沒有然後了。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:07.785714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:08.785714+08:00","text":"當然、當然。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:08+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:11.809524+08:00","text":"真的要有逐步的互動、結果還有改善，能夠讓我們知道。","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:14+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:26.777778+08:00","text":"最後一個問題，食安的風暴我們身歷其中、人心惶惶，當然衛福部也有針對某些食品認為應該逐批檢查，現行的行政規則就有。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:27.307692+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:34.733333+08:00","text":"我們在7月31號也去函衛福部，要求說明哪一些輸入的食品是採逐批檢驗。","quality":0.793},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:35.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:38.800000+08:00","text":"們的函文有要求提供一些資訊，什麼資訊呢？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:39+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:40.818182+08:00","text":"例如哪一些類別的食物。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:41.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:45.833333+08:00","text":"其實衛福部目前的規則是寫：逐批或者是每半年。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:46.214286+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:49.833333+08:00","text":"對於某些食品你們是採逐批，理由是什麼？","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:50.166667+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:53.833333+08:00","text":"還有到底是哪些國外製造業進來的，你們有逐批？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:54+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:54:56.769231+08:00","text":"哪些國內輸入業的，你們有逐批？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:54:57+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:55:11.571429+08:00","text":"我們想知道這些公開的資訊，然後進一步做一些監督，結果你給我們的回函只有左邊綠色的字，就是一個泛泛的統計數字，例如：110年1,680批；114年1,090批。","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:55:12.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:55:22.769231+08:00","text":"我們想要的是下面這個比較精細一點的表格，而你們只給了一個1,090批，所以這讓我們有一種感覺，索資好像要1塊結果給了5毛。","quality":0.863},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:55:23.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:55:26.733333+08:00","text":"能不能把其他的補給我們？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:55:27.380952+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:55:32.500000+08:00","text":"我們不要旁邊那個綠色泛泛的、很抽象的，如114年1,090批的數字。","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:55:33+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:55:45.833333+08:00","text":"我們需要一些細節性的資料，就像這個excel表格所做的，可能因為你們的法規要求逐批或逐年，對於某些食品你們採逐批，所以有了1,090這樣的數字，那理由是什麼？","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:55:46+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:55:47.866667+08:00","text":"為什麼針對這樣的食品是採用逐批？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:55:48+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:55:55.125000+08:00","text":"因為我們有看行政法規，輸入業者有21項產品逐批或者是每半年，哪些是要逐批？","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:55:55.312500+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:55:58.818182+08:00","text":"可不可以給我們每一個品項的具體數字？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:55:59+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:56:11.714286+08:00","text":"因為這樣子比較精確，後續我們可以做進一步的監督跟思考，以及為什麼這些是採用逐批的原因，還有一些國內、外的製造業或輸入業者，可以嗎？次長。","quality":0.869},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:56:12+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:56:15.571429+08:00","text":"OK，感謝委員，我是不是請食藥署來跟委員報告？","quality":1},{"speaker":"遲副署長蘭慧","start":"2026-08-26T11:56:16+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:56:34.750000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們提供那些數字是因為依據輸入查驗辦法，其實我們是依據風險區分的，基本上我們以檢驗不合格的情形，會有三個層級來調整，所以並不一定是什麼類別或是什麼狀況我們才會採逐批。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"遲副署長蘭慧","start":"2026-08-26T11:56:35.133333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:56:50.800000+08:00","text":"當然也有一個逐批情形是我們在年度會有監視的相關計畫，如果主管機關有特定的話就會採逐批，但是絕大多數的管控情事是依據這個產品之前輸入的情況，譬如說同一個報驗人或是不是同一個號列？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"遲副署長蘭慧","start":"2026-08-26T11:56:51.117647+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:56:52.882353+08:00","text":"他是不是之前都有一些不合格的情況？","quality":1},{"speaker":"遲副署長蘭慧","start":"2026-08-26T11:56:53.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:56:58.866667+08:00","text":"我們會從一般抽批改成加強抽批，再不合格的話，我們才會改成逐批。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:56:59.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:04.866667+08:00","text":"是，在你回復我們的函文好像並沒有這些具體的數字，可以給我們這些具體的數字嗎？","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:05.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:22.888889+08:00","text":"不一定要按照21個類別，因為你們有你們的邏輯跟方式，到底哪一些品項是採逐批，另外到底是不是涉及哪些比較重點，如同你說的高風險食品或什麼的，可以把這些資訊揭露給我們，因為你們就泛泛給了我們這5個數字，我們看不出是哪些品項或者是哪些業者。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:23+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:24.666667+08:00","text":"有這些數字嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"遲副署長蘭慧","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:25+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:34.777778+08:00","text":"是，跟委員報告，因為我們主要不會分相關的類別一定要怎麼做，或是哪個品項一定要怎麼做，我們是不是可以把三個階層相關的做法，跟委員做比較詳細的說明？","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:35+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:36.200000+08:00","text":"還有數字。好的。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:37+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:37+08:00","text":"好不好？","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"邱委員慧洳","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:37.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:39.500000+08:00","text":"謝謝衛福部。","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂次長建德","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:41+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:42.142857+08:00","text":"感謝邱委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:42.642857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:45.214286+08:00","text":"謝謝邱慧洳委員發言。","quality":0.222},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:45.514286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:50.371429+08:00","text":"許宇甄委員、許宇甄委員，許宇甄委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:50.671429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:57:55.528571+08:00","text":"蘇清泉委員、蘇清泉委員，蘇清泉委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-26T11:57:55.828571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:58:00.685714+08:00","text":"沈發惠委員、沈發惠委員，沈發惠委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-26T11:58:00.985714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:58:04.700000+08:00","text":"以上這三位委員都改書面質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-08-26T11:58:05+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-08-26T11:58:08.142857+08:00","text":"接下來請王正旭委員發言。","quality":0}]},"gazette":{"lineno":1278,"blocks":[["邱委員慧洳：（11時46分）主席、各位委員，大家好。有請呂次長。"],["主席：有請呂次長。"],["呂次長建德：邱委員，午安。"],["邱委員慧洳：次長好。我今天想跟你請教一個議題，就是如果把性侵加害人攤在陽光之下，讓他們的個資，例如照片或姓名全都露的話，是不是對未來一些潛在的被害者會有一定程度的保護作用？所以我第一個問題就是想跟您請教公布性侵犯的照片跟姓名，請問一下次長衛福部的態度？"],["呂次長建德：報告委員，我們現在大概兩個部分，第一個，目前其實已經有部分公告，現在就是有這個制度，而這個制度是怎麼樣？如果是高再犯風險的加害人，至於什麼叫高？這裡面有一個評估的機制，如果有再犯風險……"],["邱委員慧洳：你講的是第五十二條什麼逃亡的那一種狀況。"],["呂次長建德：對，沒錯。"],["邱委員慧洳：所以第五十二條……你講的是局部。"],["呂次長建德：沒錯。"],["邱委員慧洳：但我現在講的是全面。"],["呂次長建德：全面的話，報告委員，我之前有回答過幾個委員，我知道大家很希望一次就達到效果，可是這裡面恐怕沒那麼單純，因為有兩個重點，第一個，我們的數據顯示，加害者很多事實上就是熟人，會不會按圖……"],["邱委員慧洳：我理解，其實我有做過功課，就是怕公布加害者，然後會讓這些受害者足資辨識……"],["呂次長建德：對啊！"],["邱委員慧洳：然後呈現出他們的身分，造成二度傷害。"],["呂次長建德：沒錯。"],["邱委員慧洳：我覺得這個考慮當然值得考量。"],["呂次長建德：這裡面要有一個平衡。"],["邱委員慧洳：但是如果只有考量這個點的話，我覺得可以區別。如果公布加害人足資辨識到受害者，一種處理；如果不會足資辨識受害人的話，可能可以考慮另外一種處理。"],["呂次長建德：OK，如果能夠達到這個效果的話，我覺得確實應該有一個分開處理的方式。"],["邱委員慧洳：對，因為我覺得這裡有三種意義，一個是公共利益，其次是民眾知情權，再來就是示警潛在的受害者。"],["呂次長建德：沒錯、沒錯。"],["邱委員慧洳：所以如果你們有這種考量，你們應該區別對待，也許衛福部就帶回去再做進一步的思考。"],["呂次長建德：非常感謝委員提示這個方向，確實我們可以分開處理，最主要是被害人的最佳利益，我覺得這應該是top 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