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場域，這是因為他涉及案件也會讓其他服務機關的孩童家長感到擔憂，所以系統建置必須要跨部會的橫向連結，否則的話，建置系統就變得流於形式。我想請教，根據教保人員條例，幼兒園應該要從哪個系統進行教保人員的資格認定？"],["張廖次長萬堅：資格認定？"],["羅委員智強：我剛剛講有那麼多系統，要從哪個系統中進行教保人員的資格認定？"],["張廖次長萬堅：我們有不適任查詢系統，但沒有資格認定……"],["彭署長富源：委員剛才的意思是不是有一位不適任的人員，我們在哪裡可以查到？"],["羅委員智強：如果透過教育部各教育場域不適任人員通報及查詢系統，是不是有辦法查到涉及教保人員條例第十二條、第十三條、第十四條應予解聘免職的相關事項，包括性騷擾、性霸凌、體罰學生或幼兒等等？"],["彭署長富源：在進用、聘用的時候就要進行這樣的查察，這個查察在那個入口……因為入口會去連結剛剛你所提到有關部會的相關系統以及本部各有關系統，大概是這樣，所以查那個系統、那個入口就可以完成查察。"],["羅委員智強：我再問，現行教保人員服務條例要求聘用機構應仔細審查教保人員的資格，對不對？"],["張廖次長萬堅：對。"],["羅委員智強：要做好守門員的角色，但是否有規定、指示機構應透過哪些政府建置的平臺進行查詢？幼兒園所在招募人員的時候，用一個系統能不能查到該員在全部兒少場域的涉案紀錄？有沒有辦法？"],["彭署長富源：這是可以的。這有兩個，剛剛委員的提問都很清楚，一個是資格，不管是學校或幼兒園，教育人員大概都知道他的資格，可是還有一個怕有漏網的，叫不適任的部分，雖然不合資格，但是他在這個期間不適任，所以在網站上，我們會把全部的平臺拉在一起，透過一個入口可以查到全部。"],["羅委員智強：因為通報或是建立系統最大目的就是讓我們可以排除這些不適任人員接觸相關的教育場域，所以我覺得這一點要落實執行。","我有另外一個問題要就教次長，老師面臨濫訴、霸凌、被調查的恐懼，身心俱疲到離場，甚至成為社會事件，這類狀況頻頻發生，也衝擊教育與學生的受教品質，所以我們現在推動改革來守護教權。6月24號我質詢您的時候，您當場允諾我會朝專章或專法來保障教權，並在一個月內研議做出評估報告，我當時還對您表示肯定。我想請教次長，7月28號我收到教育部的函文，你知道上面寫什麼嗎？我收到你們的函文，因為一個月內你們要給我函文，你給我的回答是什麼，你知道嗎？我告訴你，考量現行法令規定已有明確規範，提供教師權益保障及申訴相關措施，暫不另訂教師法增設教權專章或制定教權保護專法。我放一段影片來看次長在之前的質詢是怎麼說的。","（播放影片）"],["張廖次長萬堅：後來就是評估出來，我們先從注意事項那個先開始做……"],["羅委員智強：你看，我笑得很無奈。"],["張廖次長萬堅：我請署長……他們是研議……"],["羅委員智強：我先跟次長說啦，我真的滿無奈的，因為我覺得在當場我還滿高興的，至少我們可以參考其他國家的做法，次長也很大方就答應，而且你講的是可以用專章來訂定。"],["張廖次長萬堅：專章或專法，但是他們評估的結果是認為現行的教師法有相關的機制……"],["羅委員智強：次長，沒有關係，我跟你講，第一個，我為什麼講我剛剛笑得有點尷尬，因為當時我得到的資訊不是這樣，但沒關係，你要有改變，可是我還是要跟你說，事實上，老師反映再反映，委員也拜託再拜託，在教育部眼中，我覺得老師的意見好像不被重視。日韓2022年就開始修教權專法，讓問題減緩，我們現在卻連開始都不願意，你一度願意從專章做，我也沒有堅持專法，你有專章，我覺得先從專章開始，結果現在連開始都不願意開始。在6月我的質詢其實說得很清楚，我引述日本跟韓國在2020年做的法制改革，提出設置學校律師以及修法，以法律層級明定保護教權，韓國有修訂教權四法，其中教師地位提升與教育活動保護特別法，增訂侵害教育活動的定義，如果高中以下學校或其監護人對教師、教育實施不公正干涉或限制，包括不正當目的反覆投訴，不斷強迫教師進行不屬於法定職責的工作等等，都是侵害教育活動。日韓也有霸凌濫訴的問題，他們都在2020年開始從事法律設計、制度改革來漸漸減緩教權不彰並改善教育現場，所以我才鄭重拜託部長，也請教次長，能夠對於其他國家的立法例……因為你也知道教權不彰、老師被霸凌濫訴的情形其實不是臺灣獨有，日本、韓國也很嚴重，所以我們今天要解決我們的問題當然要跟其他的國家來參照，結果現在你自己承諾的專章，現在又跟我講說你們覺得不需要……"],["張廖次長萬堅：我們其實有討論你提到不法侵害的部分，其實不法侵害的部分在職安法裡面就有規定，我們另外一個次長也在提到在學校現場的時候，我們怎麼樣把職業別的納入職安法……"],["羅委員智強：次長，我先跟你說啦，如果這些方式都有用的話，我們今天也不在這裡討論。"],["張廖次長萬堅：我們正在討論、正在納入做法。"],["羅委員智強：我要告訴您，拜託你們再好好研議一下，當初你這樣子答應我，我不認為你是隨性的，你自己一定有研究，這個問題那麼嚴重，我不相信你沒有研究其他國家比如日韓的體例，所以你上來答詢的時候，你一定是經過研究，當時你覺得可以做，否則你幹嘛當初那麼篤定告訴並答應我呢？我還是要講，今天在這邊，這件事我也會繼續來追蹤，我還是拜託次長跟教育部，老師的問題真的很嚴重，比方人家日本各都道府縣的教育委員會都配置學校律師，對學校面臨的問題提供法律質詢，日本的政府統計2022年最多諮詢的內容就是家長的過度抱怨跟無理要求，所以日本政府2020年就開始撥預算支持這個措施。時間的因素，我還是拜託次長，你回頭想一想，教育部再審慎研議一下，以上。"],["張廖次長萬堅：好。"],["主席：好，謝謝羅智強委員。","下一位陳秀寳委員。"]],"agenda":{"agendarec_url":null,"pdf_url":null,"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第28次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、繼續審查(一)委員羅廷瑋等21人擬具「電子競技運動發展基本法草案」案、(二)委員葛如鈞\n等18人擬具「電子競技運動發展基本法草案」案、(三)委員廖偉翔等20人擬具「電子競技運動發\n展基本法草案」案、(四)委員徐巧芯等17人擬具「電子競技運動發展基本法草案」案、(五)台灣\n民眾黨黨團擬具「電子競技運動促進法草案」案；二、審查委員羅智強等17人擬具「電子競技運\n動發展基本法草案」案（逐條審查）；三、審查(一)委員林月琴等16人擬具「教保服務人員條例\n第三十三條條文修正草案」案、(二)委員李彥秀等16人擬具「教保服務人員條例第十五條、第十\n六條及第十七條條文修正草案」案、(三)委員王育敏等21人擬具「教保服務人員條例部分條文修\n正草案」案、( 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