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設施設備 人才培育及跨部會合作後指我國運動產業永續發展的基礎 以上報告 請各位委員指教好 謝謝教育部代副署長的報告最後請財政部副會署 請林副署長報告"},{"start":2650.243,"end":2656.75,"text":"主席各位委員先進大家好那以下由財政部就我國運動產業相關租稅優惠執行成效提出報告那為了促進運動產業發展運動產業發展條例提供多項租稅優惠措施包括第24條提供體育團體相關門票收入免徵營業稅"},{"start":2668.303,"end":2687.829,"text":"第26條 提供營地事業對體育團體活動賽事或培養支援團隊或運動員相關捐贈的全額以費用列之第26條之一 提供個人透過對未指定或指定運動員之捐贈的全額或限額內列舉扣除第26條之二 提供營地事業透過專戶對職業或業餘運動業及重點運動賽事之捐贈的適用費費用加成減除"},{"start":2695.571,"end":2718.295,"text":"114年7月23日修正公布运产条例部分条文在第26条有增订盈利事业捐赠办理经中央主管机关认可促进全民运动发展之赛事支出得全数列支费用第26条之二盈利事业透过专户对职业或业余运动业或重点运动赛事主办单位之捐赠费用减除率由150%提高为175%"},{"start":2721.896,"end":2748.968,"text":"并修正捐赠职业或业余运动业等租税优惠实施年限延长至十年那经统计近三年盈利事业或个人运产条例捐赠金额逐年增加由111年度4.9亿元到113年度15.5亿元三年合计捐赠总额约36.2亿元透过提供合一的租税优惠措施引导民间资源投入运动产业"},{"start":2749.488,"end":2755.414,"text":"有助於打造運動產業更穩固且優質的發展環境 以上報告敬請指教 謝謝"},{"start":2764.406,"end":2786.519,"text":"好 另外有關本市會議各部會所提出的面報告 請委員進行參議員並刊登公報我們現在進行詢答 委員詢答許志明之前我們原例作為下宣告 每位委員發言時間本委員會委員五分鐘 必要時延長一分鐘 每位委員會委員四分鐘上午十點截止發言登記首先請登記第一位的邱毅英委員質詢"},{"start":2797.56,"end":2824.655,"text":"好 謝謝主席我是不是請一下經濟部次長請經濟部何市長這個麥克風是不是換過啊對啊 這個Chairman好次長好 次長我想這個還是要請教一下你有關注到這個國民黨的主席鄭麗文正主席去訪問中國的期間"},{"start":2826.038,"end":2846.666,"text":"的這些相關報導嗎是嗎來讓您review一下這個習政會的舉辦的這個當中4月7號到4月12號4月12號左右這個中國片面就宣布了他們有幾個會台的十大政策"},{"start":2847.446,"end":2863.517,"text":"但是你看一下,鄭麗文主席去到中國訪問的期間,尤其是4月10號當天,是她跟習近平主席會晤的日子,那一天的共機擾台的次數、架次特別多,相對幾天來講特別多。"},{"start":2864.358,"end":2888.86,"text":"我不知道這個是中國的習性還是說中國對待訪問他們的客人的禮貌性就是我去訪問你當天呢這個假賜要特別多表示歡迎之意嗎我不太懂齁那在那一天呢中國又宣布要黃海實彈射擊不管他做什麼動作啦總之呢做完這些軍事擾台跟你撩亂一片尿捏"},{"start":2890.922,"end":2918.437,"text":"他就公布了一個所謂的十大對台政策次長你看了一下你覺得這十大對台政策你的看法為何我看了一下這十個對台政策看起來好像跟過往他們的所謂的十大過往的所謂的會台政策沒有什麼太大的差別不過呢這一次的幾大政策的前提都必須要是堅持九二共識反對台獨"},{"start":2919.477,"end":2934.069,"text":"就是說你在做政黨交流要堅持九二共識這個我覺得這當然是合理啦青年平台也要反對九二共識比較讓我覺得匪夷所思的是農漁貿易漁業管理食品安全"},{"start":2934.89,"end":2950.956,"text":"是不是你未來在做這些貿易交流的時候我都要先在我的農漁產品上面寫說我堅持九二共識或者是我這一隻魚是反台獨我這一個芭樂是反台獨是不是要這樣子才能來做進行做交流"},{"start":2952.356,"end":2970.464,"text":"經濟部的看法是什麼經濟部未來對於這個所謂的十大對台政策經濟部的做法又會是什麼有什麼要提點的或者是說你們覺得台灣現在到目前為止面對中國的這一些"},{"start":2972.027,"end":2986.695,"text":"謊言台灣人民其實是已經習慣了嗎來 次長根文報告那其實現在台灣的產業也已經走出自己的路了那過去這個台灣跟"},{"start":2987.735,"end":3003.567,"text":"這個中國的這個貿易的這個金額其實這幾年來是大幅下降那也就是說其實我們台灣的中小企業對這個分散市場的部分這幾年來已經大幅下降是大幅下降到多少你要把這個數字講出來嗎我現在有的數字2010年台商對中國的投資是佔比是84%到現在應該剩下不到4%"},{"start":3013.995,"end":3028.648,"text":"現在就是說其實這個投資已經大幅下降那貿易也是這個過去這個大陸是一向是我們最高最大的這個貿易的對象但是現在已經美國已經變成是我們最大的一個貿易對象"},{"start":3029.989,"end":3046.886,"text":"那另外我們在新南向的部分的這個貿易金額也是大幅的成長所以很顯然就是說他的這些匯來政策對台灣的這個中小微企業其實我是認為就是應該是不具任何吸引力啦尤其最近這個這個中美的這個貿易戰或科技戰"},{"start":3049.708,"end":3069.566,"text":"这样的一个费用供应链的这样的议题兴起那也许就是说大家在这个做市场这个拓销的部分也许就会在大陆的这个市场上面大家可能就会慢慢移转到其他民主的这个供应链的国家去做投资"},{"start":3070.967,"end":3099.547,"text":"這個次長根據亞洲開發銀行的預測2026年台灣的經濟成長率應該會到7.6%中國的經濟成長率大概只有4.6%如果中國的經濟成長率這麼低然後中國現在告訴你說我來這個開放台灣對中國的這些不管是農漁的進口啦這些投資啦交流啦等等在這個九二共識跟這個反對台獨的這個框架底下歡迎大家來做這一些交流"},{"start":3100.547,"end":3121.501,"text":"我不覺得台灣人有這麼笨中國的經濟成長率相對已經比台灣還要緩慢整個市場也在萎縮當中他們自己的內需市場也過於飽和甚至已經疲態化了那我想每一個投資人應該都會去斟酌甚至去思考是不是應該要去這裡投資但是過去"},{"start":3125.043,"end":3150.437,"text":"台灣依賴單一政治化的這個市場的習性現在已經大幅改變了我覺得像中國在前一陣子禁止中國人進入日本旅遊他覺得會對日本帶來一個非常重大的旅遊傷害結果沒有啊日本人拍拍手啊日本的旅遊業蓬勃發展啊日本的旅遊環境其實是受到蠻好的保護啊"},{"start":3151.417,"end":3174.179,"text":"所以中國的這一些政策就我現在看起來是笑話一樁啦但是呢還是有一些人緊抱著中國的大腿不放還是有一些人對中國懷抱著夢想甚至呢這個不被禮貌對待的這個在野黨的黨主席回來以後他們還要再組一個對中國的所謂的對應小組"},{"start":3176.448,"end":3200.461,"text":"在我看來這個真的是笑話一樁不過就台灣的整體的經濟發展或者是說對於警訊危機的警告提醒這件事情經濟部還是不能把它當成笑話一則來看待還是應該要嚴肅以對應該要適時的對國人對國內的企業或者是您剛剛講到的中小微企業"},{"start":3201.582,"end":3227.172,"text":"如果有危機存在的地方還是應該要適度的扮演好政府在監督管理或者是協助的角色應該對於他們提出警訊甚至來提出協助我想這一點還是我們經濟部應該要持續去做的事情好不好 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策略性製造業還有AI新創的部分還有一個綠色成長進營產業實施方案這些部分其實"},{"start":6551.298,"end":6572.088,"text":"國防會這邊都已經有很多不同的一些辦法跟方案那我們運動部這邊為什麼拖那麼久大概什麼時候可以把它送出來我們的辦法應該在四月份可以走完我們部裡面的程序然後報到行政院去今年四月份可以報到行政院去幾月底可以完成我們部內的一個程序幾月可以完成"},{"start":6572.949,"end":6586.967,"text":"我們在七月七月可以完成對不對所以說七月之後的時候就是台灣在投資運動產業的部分國發基金就可能會真正產生實際的一個效果對不對"},{"start":6591.892,"end":6616.96,"text":"是這樣子嘛原來我想請教一下想請教一下我們那個國家運動產業發展中心的董事長這董事長就說因為你是到時候的執行單位那因為辦法現在還沒有出來我在想說您自己對於未來就是我們的運動產業發展中心在投資運動產業當中的時候你有沒有一些想像"},{"start":6618.578,"end":6645.28,"text":"好 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謝謝主席我想要請經濟部次長跟我們運動部次長運動部黃次長"},{"start":6890.837,"end":6911.332,"text":"何市長你提到說就是依照運動產業發展條例那你要配合運動部的運動產業綱領那在這個前提下我想要請問經濟部主管的運動製造業跟運動部所主管的"},{"start":6913.754,"end":6937.903,"text":"運動產業促進這兩個是怎麼樣的組成關係因為你們倆今天都在我們是不是就做一個釐清就是說是怎麼樣子的一個組成關係那在未來再補助的資源怎麼樣避免跌床駕屋以及怎麼樣子協助我國的運動產業以及運動科技的對全世界的這樣子一個推廣"},{"start":6939.957,"end":6967.77,"text":"我們和市長先說好了我們這邊所輔導的運動產業包括運動用品的產業還有自行車產業那光運動用品這個產業的範圍就很廣包括各項球類包括羽毛球拍高爾夫球具或是戶外或是室內健身器材等等這些都是我們的所謂定義"},{"start":6969.097,"end":6987.017,"text":"運動用地的這個範圍那自行車產業的部分就更聚焦是在一些這個自行車的這個整車零配件等等這些都是我們福島的這個對象所以也就是說我們現在許多的這些福島的資源"},{"start":6988.058,"end":7008.167,"text":"不管是研發的補助或是說我們的一些租稅抵減的一些獎勵的對象其實這些產業的行業所屬的行業其實都是占了一大部分那外貿呢外貿當然就是協助他們去做一些像國內運動產業的外貿推廣還有一些運動用品展等等這些我們在國內國外都是會協助這些產業去做推廣"},{"start":7018.394,"end":7019.657,"text":"我們就叫一下黃市長好不好"},{"start":7021.414,"end":7047.715,"text":"市長那請教一下那運動你所謂的運動產業的促進是只有就運動業還是運動相關的產業你們也會共同協助目前就運動產業的定義當中我們目前是12家一項也就是除了製造業之外有非常多類型的服務也就是為什麼我們今年在跟經濟部合作在推動小規模的新創公司我們特別針對運動服務類型"},{"start":7049.976,"end":7067.102,"text":"給予特定的補助因為服務業是廣泛的我們需要有更創新的服務的概念來推動運動的產業我想就教一下就是現在世界棒球十二強以及相關的職棒的這樣子大家都非常愛看所以"},{"start":7068.422,"end":7083.764,"text":"大家都開始了解了所謂的這樣子的鷹眼系統跟電子好球帶系統那我們經濟部他們也有研發了相關的這個鷹眼系統那已經導入了天母的球場"},{"start":7084.605,"end":7110.451,"text":"那未來有沒有機會因為這種東西要藉由過去運動部你們對於世界上面的這樣子共同的一個脈絡聯繫等等的才有可能把我們所謂的棒球鷹眼系統推廣出去嘛那這個部分你們怎麼樣合作啊是不是我們想要知道說除了"},{"start":7111.452,"end":7118.473,"text":"我們可以把它導入天母球場以外是不是有辦法推廣到全世界其他的球場去嗎"},{"start":7119.4,"end":7146.961,"text":"目前跟委員報告目前我們在跟經濟部的合作其實是我們技術師那個地方在合作技術端他們開發應用認證端是我們這邊在執行我們希望能夠開發我們自己台灣版的鷹眼系統部門委員跟委員報告就在上個禮拜菲律賓的體委會的主委來到我們台灣他們正要去蓋他們的棒球場我就提出來我們可以提供我們台灣版的鷹眼的服務到他們的地方去"},{"start":7147.862,"end":7162.631,"text":"他們目前要先蓋場館所以這一塊的東西要到後半段所以你們要推到菲律賓是不是把鷹眼系統推到菲律賓嗎我們要先把我們內部的東西先做好目前我們的鷹眼的系統的計算還會有一些類格的方式我們目前正在開發25G的一個鏡頭的系統才有辦法類比"},{"start":7166.733,"end":7184.539,"text":"美國的鷹眼系統因為美國的鷹眼系統太貴了而且他不賣他只租所以對我們來講我們應該開發我們自己的系統更何況我們需要把我們的資料留在台灣因為如果用他們系統雲端資料到他們那邊去就沒有辦法分析沒錯可以分析但是他們擁有我們的資料我們希望維護我們的數據主權"},{"start":7186.54,"end":7202.741,"text":"所以就是我們希望用我們的系統那我們也希望說能夠推廣給就是說我們現在有菲律賓這樣子的一個有一個目標嘛國科會的主導之下在他的科會辦當中他已經要求我們跟經濟部一起合作來開發台灣的鷹眼系統"},{"start":7204.924,"end":7216.958,"text":"好 謝謝兩位我想要就教一下我們再請國發會業主委來好了因為次長也在這裡運動部的次長在這裡我們想請教一下國發會現在在研議"},{"start":7221.383,"end":7242.121,"text":"你要鬆綁運動就業金卡的資格那我想要請問你具體放寬的目標是什麼那是針對教練而已還是防護員還是其他像剛才次長所提到的具有數據分析能力的運動科學人才呢"},{"start":7242.582,"end":7253.123,"text":"基本上我們會建議那個運動部就是從運動員教練裁判甚至運動產業人才都進行鬆綁全部都進去那次長在這裡次長你覺得呢"},{"start":7255.475,"end":7283.565,"text":"主委現在說了他希望放寬的是不管是運動員教練還有裁判還有這個就是具有分析能力的運動科學人才有沒有辦法我們當然會歡迎只要任何專業人才會不會協助啊一定會協助因為任何專業人才可以進到台灣來協助我們共同發展運動產業我們都會支持你們也是希望說朝這個方向是不是這個方向是共同的嗎還是只有國發會主委"},{"start":7284.645,"end":7304.887,"text":"不會啊 只要是專業人才我們都歡迎你們都會支持嘛 是不是好 那我想要請問喔那如果我們引入了這樣子的一個人才同時喔來到台灣那會不會對於本土選手還有本土國內人才有排擠的"},{"start":7306.351,"end":7327.929,"text":"跟委員報告這個部分是不會有排擠的因為我們那個就業金卡基本上適用外籍人士所以基本上對於國內的那些是不會有任何排擠的不會有排擠喔最後我還有一個問題就叫給我一點時間我就叫一下我們主委跟市長你們兩個都在這裡喔川普他上節目的時候說"},{"start":7329.17,"end":7352.009,"text":"美伊戰爭快要結束了中東風土快要結束了16日就要和談了我想就教兩位可能性高不高對台灣的石油天然氣以及煤礦的影響會不會讓我們現在飽受中油台電要吸收的這個成本會不會降低"},{"start":7353.204,"end":7373.427,"text":"跟委員報告就好像我兩三個禮拜前在這邊做的那個業務報告一樣就是說美國智庫預估是四周到八周所以還是在那個評估的範圍之內目前還在評估的範圍那我沒有我現在是要就教如果16號就停火了那對於目前我們"},{"start":7375.408,"end":7393.97,"text":"這個天然氣、石油相關的成本的吸收會不會降低多少等一下我們也請次長回答第一個就是說委員我想也非常關注這個問題那你也可以看到今天的天然氣或者是原油不管是布蘭特原油或是西德州原油它的價格都一直在下降"},{"start":7394.651,"end":7412.138,"text":"那所以很多預測機構都預期啦這個戰事應該在短期之內會結束那假如是短期之內會結束的話對於我們的CPI的影響其實是會相當有限那對於我們的經濟成長來講的話也不會有太大的影響不會有不會不會就是說"},{"start":7412.998,"end":7442.698,"text":"就是至少我們的CPI不會再上升了嘛 物價不會再上升上去啦因為可能就是說物價會有一些遞延效果啦 那這個戰爭是從2月底開始所以那個遞延效果會慢慢的可能啦 可能會會發生在4月 但是假如說暫時在4月 就好像我們預估在4月16號結束的話那一個整個市場反應會充分的反映到那個CPI的那個指數上面 所以應該是不會 對全年的CPI來講的話 應該是不會有大幅"},{"start":7443.078,"end":7462.867,"text":"上升的可能好那次長回答一下對中油台電呢是當然我們會持續觀察就是說這個部分也許短時間之內要能夠恢復到這2月28號以前的那個那個油價可能我覺得是有困難但是我們會觀察就是說整個那你們中油還有台電吸收成本會不會"},{"start":7464.651,"end":7488.07,"text":"會不會降低 這個會跟油價的這個波動會有關係所以也許如果油價有下降的話那當然就是我們我們中油的這個成本大概就會降低好好謝謝好謝謝市長先請回座 跟城中委員說明一下因為我剛有宣佈6分鐘宣佈6分鐘休息啊 都有算薄"},{"start":7489.246,"end":7504.54,"text":"因為都有算薄啦 公共協同公廟 要休息六分鐘啦那你稍等六分鐘 大家來搜尋一下六分鐘 這個掌握時間六分鐘 現在休息六分鐘"},{"start":7537.364,"end":7538.525,"text":"鸡蛋糕"},{"start":7562.961,"end":7563.621,"text":"谢谢大家"},{"start":7589.824,"end":7589.844,"text":"小黃蠅蠅"},{"start":7615.523,"end":7615.643,"text":"這裏有個大廈"},{"start":7875.975,"end":7884.064,"text":"來 那個列席官員請回座好 我們繼續開會現在請 下一位執行請陳昌明委員"},{"start":7895.1,"end":7903.135,"text":"呃 主席好首先有請我們體育部齁體育部 黃市長欸 運動部 運動部 現在要改了齁運動部 黃市長我們的黃支部次長"},{"start":7914.607,"end":7941.468,"text":"黃州副市長好今天我們只許是用心良苦特別把運動部召來經濟委員召開他今天所有邀請的人我覺得他不懷好用心良苦用心良苦那我首先請教你一個問題運動部的成立你是要推展全民運動還是要指支國家隊去打我們的世界盃"},{"start":7943.34,"end":7970.878,"text":"應該是兩者並行啦以前對於競技運動的確非常的重視可是運動部成立之後我們會更加的加強全民運動那你運動部成立的時候要指出國家隊我問你一個問題以台灣現在體育的發展我不要講世界運動會、世運我講亞運亞運你覺得以台灣人的體格台灣的運動型態我們有哪一種能拿到前三名的"},{"start":7972.133,"end":7983.13,"text":"有那幾個項目目前嗎今年不錯的是拳擊舉重我們的射箭我們的射擊"},{"start":7984.489,"end":8008.906,"text":"還有部分的田徑項目還有我們的kabadi也不錯我先問你一個問題因為運動跟體型各方面有關係你會不會說要去打籃球或是100米的或是1000米的大概我們會很困難所以我主張運動不需要全民的運動全民的運動能強身健康"},{"start":8009.246,"end":8021.662,"text":"打仗的時候能打,要跑的時候也要跑得比別人快這個很重要最重要要延長人的生命把它運動當為我們日常的生活最重要的一種"},{"start":8023.772,"end":8052.651,"text":"你了解嗎?我了解你要打國家隊不一定去拚我們要選擇一種比較配合台灣人去跟世界來競技來較勁的地方一定要改變這一些的觀念我現在常常看到那個老人捶球運動是老人高而求到處都很普遍你們一定要把它改成一個運動的風趣我覺得最重要其實全民運動最重要那比賽只有一兩個"},{"start":8053.992,"end":8071.028,"text":"那今天我為什麼特別說要感謝我們的召委用心良苦我今天我看了他找來的幾個單位台灣電力公司、台灣棕榆公司、台灣糖業公司、中鋼公司你曉得他找這幾個單位來做什麼?你曉不曉得?"},{"start":8074.721,"end":8082.395,"text":"我沒有那個智慧不是沒有那種智慧是各家單位要出錢來支持我們的運動啊你都不曉得啊"},{"start":8085.201,"end":8106.999,"text":"所以你要看得出來,你看這個召委這樣子你覺得怎麼樣?設計很周到,我說給你了解一下,運動比賽要出勁的,還要出力的,所以你真的要感謝我們的邱召委,你看他紅光滿面,所以他天天有運動才有這樣的結果。"},{"start":8110.08,"end":8128.515,"text":"第二個你說運動產業化又找了產業發展史那我現在也不知道說產業發展史跟運動要如何結合然後我們產業發展史你大概找你過來一定有用意有目的我們要如何來支持運動部你有什麼看法我們請我們"},{"start":8131.377,"end":8153.575,"text":"合作處啊 因為這跟你有關的你看 產業技術師也來 國營事業也來還有產業發展室還有商業發展室 這就是有錢的單位在民間的力量很大你要怎樣來支持配合我們運動部啊這個叫做什麼 今天的主題啊產業的規劃"},{"start":8157.099,"end":8165.812,"text":"那個運動部產業發展所我剛剛看了還有運動產業發展中心的鄭董事長"},{"start":8169.57,"end":8193.385,"text":"這樣處長你先解釋我來問鄭董事長今天召委把這幾個單位找過來經濟部也找過來國家發展委員會也找過來教育部也找過來從來的陣仗沒有這麼大好幾個部會在一起所以去召委執席真的不錯不錯你很有前途希望來"},{"start":8194.872,"end":8197.993,"text":"你要怎麼來找人找幫忙,這樣簡單來講事情今天有經濟部來了,有經濟部的產業師,如果要跟運動來就好你告訴我,因為你是產業嘛,發展中心,我看你的理論在哪裡啊"},{"start":8212.25,"end":8238.089,"text":"好 謝謝委員我們想我們很重要的產業的發展必須要把需求端跟供應端還有環境做起來那我們第一個就是從運動的產業跟產值所在如果以我們六千多億來看運動的製造還有運動的零售大概就佔了將近七成那剩下的大概兩成多到三成是服務業"},{"start":8239.77,"end":8264.685,"text":"如果這樣的提升來看有幾個是發展從蛋黃你覺得要從哪幾個地方發展因為時間快要到了只是又要站起來了那就是競技運動有運動明星的部分讓他能夠關賽推動粉絲的經濟帶動那第二個是往全民運動的部分那就找有運動的族群比較大來推動那你現在覺得哪個運動的族群比較大"},{"start":8265.605,"end":8292.911,"text":"如果從運動的職業運動來看職棒職籃是比較大那其次是在企業聯賽像排球等等這個是整個接棒上來那如果從休閒運動來看族群比較大的是像我們的不需要場地的馬拉松還有路跑這些會先那其次大概是所謂的球類運動揮擊式的羽球網球等等大家講說運動產業很大"},{"start":8295.291,"end":8314.463,"text":"要去完成一個真正的產業鏈當然台灣為什麼會在外面譬如騎腳踏車我們腳踏車王國還有滑雪啦什麼什麼那是叫做產業台灣有的當然我們要繼續發揚光大我現在那叫做世界盃那叫做勝利"},{"start":8315.383,"end":8338.979,"text":"但是你台灣自己本土裡面你怎樣去推展整個要結合在一起的產業我很快跟委員報告第一個是我們運動去結合像製造業的自行車啦或是高爾夫球桿讓它從數位轉型有人工智慧跟科技的導入往服務化走第二個才是創新的服務我一行今天講的運動部來到這邊"},{"start":8341.801,"end":8363.792,"text":"我們苗栗很多的運動場國小國中運動場都還沒鋪完成我麻煩一下特別照顧今天運動部那最基礎的小朋友的運動場所一定要安全一定要弄好我這個特別的拜託有沒有困難我們一起來努力到這裡的教育部我現在不知道運動部對這個有關心嗎"},{"start":8365.553,"end":8380.081,"text":"有啊,一定有啊一定有,表示我經常跟你說的,你會做就是啊是不是我們一起來努力發展這樣說太模糊了啦,你拼命把它做光這要是模糊,你說我全力來幫忙,不對"},{"start":8381.622,"end":8402.879,"text":"我們一直努力好不好這個再拜託一下還有一點這個很不公平台灣的體育人才幾乎在鄉下結果我們培養到小學之中培養起來結果好的人才都跑到六讀高中他們有錢就把這些人挖草這樣你說要怎麼推展體育"},{"start":8405.273,"end":8432.191,"text":"在有錢的六都啊裡面他們都一直挖角讓我們培養辛辛苦苦培養結果那個成果的時候摘果實的時候不是我們原來的發展地都在六都啊啊你聽有辦法改變如果像地方上它確實有一種運動產業非常好的時候市長你多等你啊這個要如何改善跟解決這個問題很嚴重啊"},{"start":8433.703,"end":8459.601,"text":"我們有看到這樣的狀況這也是為什麼我們現在在推動的基層上面我們希望基層的運動能夠再強你那個就要保重因為六都的企業家多我們那邊的企業家少所以不能今天去跟他們說說要不然要跟他們講話你們就要保持下去不要只有六都人口多你就把它補助多一點不合理啦這個世界不公平啦好不好好謝謝"},{"start":8463.745,"end":8491.083,"text":"謝謝,謝謝陳昌平委員多好,讓你多講幾分鐘謝謝我們陳昌平精闢的資訊剛剛您提到的問題為什麼會找我這個國營企業我利用這個時候說明一下台電本來就有基礎了台電它有足球隊有棒球隊也有排球隊中遊過去有足球隊也有棒球隊那這個台糖是大地主"},{"start":8492.213,"end":8512.584,"text":"在南部你如果要大型的這個運動場館啊需要如果土地成本能夠降低那台糖也應該可以參與所以請台糖董事長來也請董事長如果未來在我的選區要蓋一個製蛋的話這個再請這個台糖能夠大力支持我們在岡山那邊有15幾公頃的土地"},{"start":8520.573,"end":8538.143,"text":"所以我今天找他來是有特殊的戰略意義因為為什麼找中鋼來?因為大型場館要新進,需要鋼構以後要建一個大型場館一定需要建築鋼構,所以今天請中鋼來"},{"start":8539.44,"end":8557.587,"text":"所以我沒有請台水來 因為台水所以我剛剛陳昌明委員說了我為什麼要請這個國營事業來最主要目的還是這樣子希望大家一起 國營事業一起來參與好我們繼續質詢 下一位林楚芸 林楚芸不在現在請李育林委員"},{"start":8571.34,"end":8573.084,"text":"好謝謝主席我們請運動部的黃市長"},{"start":8584.383,"end":8611.03,"text":"市長近期我們WBC世界棒球經典賽剛剛落幕在全台掀起了棒球熱所以我們看到這個棒球啊可以不只是說它是競技上的一個活動也會凝聚到國人的這個情感也要讓世界看到台灣的這個重要的這個舞台所以我們整合了國家的資源大力的來推動體育的政策發展在去年9月的時候我們的體育署"},{"start":8613.19,"end":8640.276,"text":"就升格為我們的運動部當時2013年的時候體育署有推出了我們的這個運動政策白皮書那去年成立為運動部之後的話2025年你們也有聯合的一些諮詢要提出的運動白皮書但是運動白皮書你們諮商過這些我們的專家或者是我們相關的運動的部分的一些資料但是你們並沒有在去年"},{"start":8640.976,"end":8647.318,"text":"民底提出來這個白皮書而且要公布說要在2027年為什麼時間要一直延宕下去"},{"start":8648.305,"end":8676.752,"text":"跟委員報告因為原本的政策白皮書的規劃是以體育署的概念作為基礎去做研發的可是運動你們的修正要這麼久的時間嗎因為在今年年底可以嗎的確需要一段時間把理論跟實際的東西去年七八月就討論過了今年可以提出來嗎今年出版應該可以提得出來白皮書是可以今年就提出來我們出版可以提出來還需要出稿已經出來了"},{"start":8677.552,"end":8692.325,"text":"初稿已經出來了 次長你不知道嗎我知道你的初稿是什麼時候出來的 去年就出來了初稿出來的時候 我要求我們的行政部門因為初稿出來的時候 他相對的理想非常的好"},{"start":8692.965,"end":8718.402,"text":"所以還有今年續年的時間給你我們知道如果你一直白皮書延宕的話會讓我們推動這個運體育的這些政策會受到一些阻礙所以盡快把它推出來好不好是 我們盡快接下來就是要跟請教一下次長因為這個2013年的運動白皮書裡面特別有提到救生人員的這個人力培訓訂定了一些目標在2020年到2025年你們一直都沒有達標"},{"start":8722.925,"end":8731.479,"text":"你知道現在在我們地方上很多的狀況就是很多游泳池的救生員人力不足的情形嗎我有知道這個狀況那你解決了嗎"},{"start":8733.305,"end":8757.348,"text":"目前我們是增加我們考試的場次以前考試的單位好像比較少我們已經開放這樣子考試的單位因為考照合格率很低啊就算你考到了也人家不願意去從事這個工作所以這個救生人員沒辦法解決包括我們桃園的話就有我們的運動中心的話包括巴德和中立都運動人員不夠最近才慢慢的來補足了"},{"start":8757.728,"end":8771.704,"text":"所以我們希望說你們要想出辦法來可以跟我們的運動相關的單位包括學校也好是不是考照畢業必須要把這考照就是他們的門檻可不可以可以建造合作的方式來可以解決這個問題"},{"start":8773.766,"end":8794.784,"text":"那接下來我們再請教一下就是說去年我們三讀通過的這個運動產業發展條例通過那麼久了給你法給你法源要你去修正這些相關的辦法但是我們看到一年過去的時間你們都沒有就是在我們的運動投資產業的相關辦法裡面包括我們請一下我們的國發會的這個葉主委"},{"start":8800.289,"end":8821.975,"text":"為什麼你們兩個部會 運動部跟我們的國發會為什麼沒有辦法把這個投資辦法共識提出來跟委員報告 這個投資辦法目前在我們部內已經快要完成它的一個程序將要進行預告將要 今年可以提出來嗎我們預計在這個月或下個月就會提出預告預告完 修正完之後現在跟國發會沒有共識嗎"},{"start":8823.53,"end":8851.649,"text":"不是哪些部分沒有共識目前跟國外是有共識的只是我們在程序上面必須要廣聽社會大眾的意見已經討論過了沒有我們要預告也就是我們把出版出來之後要預告對社會大眾預告所以有哪些的部分增加的部分呢有沒有我們目前的方向上是希望能夠在投資上面能夠是用民間領頭政府跟頭的方式來做運動產業的投資好所以你說今年就會出來葉主委"},{"start":8853.67,"end":8878.321,"text":"沒有問題嗎基本上沒有問題因為比例式的投資嘛給他們減稅的方式嘛是不是是不是減稅減稅的方式減稅可能不會是唯一的啦但我們國發基金除了說剛剛的那一個100億基金之外的話其實我們那個創業天使投資啊已經在投資那個運動產業了那目前大概已經有投資大概6千3百億左右了6千3百萬對不起6千3百萬"},{"start":8881.062,"end":8890.85,"text":"如果說六千多億的話也不錯啦那我相信我體育的賽事很多國際賽事都在台灣舉行的好 謝謝那我接著再請一下我們經濟部的我們的何次長"},{"start":8891.752,"end":8919.926,"text":"因為今天很多我們稍微提出來這個議題是非常好的所以我們要多問一下包括運動設備方面的話我們像我們文明的世界品牌包括我們自行車的製造商我們的捷安特跟這個美麗達還有主打我們的健身器材的這個橋山科技他們都是非常亮眼的成績雖然說沒有半導體這麼亮眼但是它在我們國際上還是我們台灣之光"},{"start":8920.526,"end":8949.586,"text":"所以我們希望我們在運動設備案設備業之這個方面我們就盡量來輔導他但是我們因為在製造上的製造業製造鞋子也好或者是紡織部分的話我們國際大品牌他們的供應商他們的能力跟他們的品質都是受國際所肯定的但是利潤上我們卻受制於國際的大品牌所以我們現在提出了這個AI這個人工智慧可以帶動著我們AI化的話"},{"start":8950.146,"end":8968.433,"text":"但我們的這個很多產業可以轉型在AI化那是不是我們可以幫助我們傳統製造這個代工產業走向這個品牌化 國際化可不可以是 當然可以這個也是我們經濟部一直在輔導產業的方向那也就是說我們希望把這個台灣的這些優勢產業"},{"start":8969.873,"end":8975.694,"text":"能夠推向國際所以國際的一些重要的展會我們也都會帶著這些廠商到國外去用台灣館的方式來呈現在國內的部分像自行車展的話也是國內一個非常大的一個國際性的一個展覽我們國內的廠商也都是會將他們的這些自由品牌的產品在那個展場去做"},{"start":8995.74,"end":9011.471,"text":"這個展覽所以我想這些都是我們未來在推動品牌台灣一個非常重要的一個所以我們現在很多AI的轉型企業我們多多的輔導讓他們有整個供應鏈的優勢是 進軍國際好不好好 謝謝好 謝謝林議員請大家請回座好 下面質詢請李崑哲委"},{"start":9027.79,"end":9033.717,"text":"好 謝謝主席那我們請這一個國發會的葉主委還有運動部的黃次長運動部黃次長"},{"start":9038.183,"end":9060.343,"text":"委員好主委好 市長好這個請教一下這個美籍的台藝球員Fairchild在我們WBC的這個經典賽裡面表現非常的亮眼然後在一個月前國發會說這個要跟運動部要來協助我們這個Fairchild來取得這個就業金卡那一個月時間過了我不曉得進度怎麼樣"},{"start":9061.064,"end":9087.754,"text":"目前我們跟就是Fairchild他本人跟他太太他們兩個都有意願所以我們正在收集資料所以應該近期會這個一個月前一個月後的答案還是一樣因為我們現在請他提供我們護照我們再幫他後續的那個部分幫這兩位他們夫妻都有意願取得就業金卡那大概多久可以完成"},{"start":9095.93,"end":9113.877,"text":"我們只要中職推薦 寫了推薦書之後的話我們大概一兩個禮拜就可以完成手續中職對 中華職棒聯盟寫推薦書那為什麼是他們寫推薦書因為就整個那個申請的資格上面來看的話我們需要有一個機構來當作推薦人"},{"start":9118.018,"end":9139.584,"text":"那這個有跟中華職棒大聯盟聯絡了嗎?會那所以還沒有聯絡是不是?現在我們在等護照嗎?因為對方要給我們護照整個程序才能開始跑對啊因為這個應該是上週吧他太太也有來開球啦那我就想說那到底這一個月的時間你們做了哪些事情那如果這樣講一個月之內應該可以辦成啊?"},{"start":9143.226,"end":9159.653,"text":"應該是我們也希望在一個月之內可以辦成那他取得這個就業競考之後那對他來講有什麼樣的一個方便之處他進我們國門的話幾乎是沒有限制不需要受到我們那些什麼簽證的影響那就這樣子而已喔"},{"start":9161.761,"end":9182.121,"text":"不用辦簽證可以自由工作就譬如說像Fairchild他的太太要在台灣工作的話是不受任何限制的對啦我要講這個不是說進來不用簽證啦我是說我們希望他能夠進來那我們也希望說如果有機會他當然能夠留在台灣所以國發會不是只有發卡機構嘛對不對我們希望國客會"},{"start":9186.004,"end":9198.796,"text":"國發會你必須要跟比如說相關的部會來做一個結合比如說我們有跟這一個經濟部也好跟這個運動部也好然後跟勞動部也好跟教育部也好我們來做一個結合嘛"},{"start":9199.116,"end":9217.766,"text":"那做一個節奏就希望說拿到就業金卡的今天不論是運動員或是其他的剛剛主委也有提到說除了這個運動員之外甚至連防護員跟運動產業相關的人員我們也希望他們如果意願我們就協助他拿這個就業金卡所以不是只有拿卡就是未來"},{"start":9218.866,"end":9240.012,"text":"我們希望他們留在台灣我覺得這才是最重要的台灣的運動相關的產業才有這個顯著的幫助因為我們國發會也有一個Talent Taiwan這樣的一個辦公室我們Talent Taiwan其實最主要的一個目的就是在協助所有的外籍人士在台灣能夠安穩的落地在這邊落地生根"},{"start":9240.712,"end":9259.418,"text":"對 因為其實齁 這個之前委員有關心過我們關於這個運動產業這方面的申請就業金卡比例很低1%左右嘛 對不對那所以是大家認為說這個台灣不動市運動產業這一塊嗎那還是說在申請這方面遇到什麼樣的困難"},{"start":9259.898,"end":9279.19,"text":"沒有因為就我的資料來講的話目前申請運動這個領域申請到就業金卡大概有32個人那我們未來啦希望就是運動部可以的話一年是不是能夠達到100人這樣一個KPI那請運動部來說明一下這個主委有這個KPI值那運動部來說明一下"},{"start":9280.964,"end":9305.115,"text":"我們當然會結合產業的需求也不是隨便就找外國人進來當然啦一定進來的時候對我們的產業對我們的專業有所提升有所幫助的人這我都知道但我的意思是說主委有這一個這個意思是說希望能夠引進百味的這個運動產業的相關人員能夠進來那運動部做了什麼樣的準備主席你今天的這個題目"},{"start":9305.515,"end":9311.189,"text":"非常的好所以呢我必須這個題目要多講一點我也稱讚一下我們主席給我多一些時間20秒來"},{"start":9315.679,"end":9339.625,"text":"我們其實還是從我們的人力的需求上面我們的第一個大方向就是進來的這一個人一定是可以幫助我們提升本土的發展這我當然知道啦我是說這一個剛剛主委有提到這個100位我是說那你們覺得有機會達成嗎這個需要透過各方面去尋采啊不是我們單方面說要有多少好 OK 那請這一個主委"},{"start":9341.366,"end":9367.457,"text":"我幫忙補充一下就是說以往32位大部分都是在運動員那我們現在這一次的話是希望不只是運動員教練裁判尤其是運動產業人才這個部分的話我們希望能夠大幅度的一個增加這樣的譬如說我們可以增加運動科研數據分析醫療防護以及經理管理等專業後勤人力所以假如說把這些都納進來的話"},{"start":9368.797,"end":9397.075,"text":"一百位的話應該是有機會達成的主委這樣講就比較具體嘛那我最後再問一個就是說你們說要協助運動部來申請主題式白衣基金這個現在具體的這個方向或是具體的做法怎麼樣現在目前就是等那個運動部把它的辦法公告之後的話那就送到我們國發會這邊那我們在國發會的管理會裡面就會開始討論那預計要多久因為是你們要協助他們嘛預計多久這一個白衣基金"},{"start":9397.935,"end":9425.003,"text":"這一個主題是白金就是專門運動這方面的嘛運動部預計在五月初完成公告那接下來的話我們會盡快在最近這一次的那個管理會上面就把他排進來好啦我希望上半年至少這個先有一個這個粗略的這一個這個出來啦讓大家了解一下那未來看要怎麼樣去協助我們的這個運動產業好不好好謝謝主席被你稱讚了一下那你多了多了五分鐘"},{"start":9426.497,"end":9443.174,"text":"你講的比本委會還多你說的那個白衣支持運動產業那是我提議的在國會提議的有啦 那你講很多來 下一位質詢請蔡春籌委員"},{"start":9468.348,"end":9472.893,"text":"主席好有請經濟次長還有運動部次長運動部黃次長委員好兩位次長好"},{"start":9485.526,"end":9489.148,"text":"運動部在成立之後運動產業就被視為我國未來運動發展的一個重要的一個資質之一那相較於歐盟日本還有英美等先進國家運動產業的一個占比GDP比重普遍可以達2%至2.6%的一個"},{"start":9512.121,"end":9518.085,"text":"那個成長那台灣去年在1.3%的一個顯示 仍然有一個成長的一個空間那在過去五年 運動用品還有器材的製造及批發及零售業仍然是在支撐一個運動產業的一個經濟的一個火車頭剛剛我們有很多委員都有提到我們的自行車 我們的高爾夫球"},{"start":9541.199,"end":9545.64,"text":"的那個球技還有我們的運動跑步跑步機這都是我們打造我們台灣品牌的一個項目那總感覺我們對於這樣比較重的一個工業我們是發展得很好但是感覺在輕服務還有數位這個部分的結構好像有一點失衡請兩位次長做一個分析"},{"start":9569.562,"end":9592.779,"text":"那這個產業部分是不是我先來做補充一下就是說剛剛委員提到的這個部分確實是最近許多的這些運動的科技的這些這種產品也開始有很大幅的這個出現在市場上結合AI的或是結合許多這個平台運動健康管理的平台的這些業者"},{"start":9593.399,"end":9600.366,"text":"那其實他們都是軟硬整合的這個部分來提供給這個消費者來運用那這也是我們現在其實台灣的強項我們怎麼樣能夠把這些半導體也好或說我們的自動訊的這個產品能夠融入在這些包括不管是運動器材也好或是說我們的運動"},{"start":9612.998,"end":9633.038,"text":"管理或是健康促進的這些產品項目裡面來其實這個都是我們現在台灣的這個機會那我們現在許多的這些前瞻科技的這個研發的部分也是協助業界在投入這個部分所以這個產品的部分也在做一些數位轉型或是智慧化的這個開發的這個過程裡面"},{"start":9637.683,"end":9642.026,"text":"我知道我們這個軟體的部分我們當然在報告書裡面都有寫但是我們只有沒有看到產值產值有多少表示就是說我們沒有辦法把原發的東西能夠行銷出去"},{"start":9658.139,"end":9676.423,"text":"那我們希望就是說不只是在核銷補助的這個建位而已而是能夠把我們的產品像我們的硬體的部分能夠行銷到我們台灣或者是世界世界去這個是我們期待的再請問一下"},{"start":9683.084,"end":9686.547,"text":"國家運動產業發展中心 運動部下設立的行政法人負責推動運動產業調查 人才培育還有市場的一個拓展該中心也有專責跨部會合作 以前年運動還有賽會的一個輔導產業刺激其跨域創新為四大核心的方向請問一下運動部代表說明一下跨部會的情況"},{"start":9711.426,"end":9727.494,"text":"是以哪些跨部位來做一個合作就跨部位的部分以運動結合像觀光旅遊跟交通部那第二個是剛談到的大健康跟衛福部再來是經濟部的製造的運動器材設備怎麼讓它服務化大概這三大方向"},{"start":9730.269,"end":9733.01,"text":"我們也希望未來我們能夠把運動觀光一併來做一個推出在這裡剛剛都沒有問到我們那個黃次長在這裡跟黃次長鼓勵一下因為我們運動部剛剛成立"},{"start":9749.818,"end":9774.032,"text":"目前應該是人力短缺三位次長兩位次長來做那我們希望我們運動部剛剛成立我們這個運動部的高牆一定要把它撐住在這裡也勉勵我們次長能夠還有我們運動部能夠加油為我們台灣的一個運動能夠開創一個新的一個局面謝謝委員的鼓勵我們一起努力謝謝謝謝來來"},{"start":9779.113,"end":9789.274,"text":"好 那請回座這個蘇英權 蘇英權不在 張雅琳 張雅琳在好 請張雅琳委員"},{"start":9799.1,"end":9808.823,"text":"好 謝謝主席那接下來我們要邀請我們的運動部次長跟教育部的代副署長教育部代副署長你好謝謝"},{"start":9819.557,"end":9830.232,"text":"謝謝我想其實我看了很多今天的報告我們強調我們有很多的投資在賽事上面那我想要有賽事那選手到底在哪裡"},{"start":9831.343,"end":9860.883,"text":"好不然你投資很多的賽事我們選手根本就沒有沒有選手要怎麼辦賽事呢所以我想討論的就是鰻魚基層的訓練啦我想從這個是教育部體育署之前每一年我們都會陸陸續續做很多的一些研究了解我們用量化的方式來研究那我們就發現說大概在國中跟高中端這一端呢其實我們只有三成的學生認為自己運動時間充足那相比日本或者是德國或者是美國我們的運動時間課堂上面的安排也是相對少的"},{"start":9861.823,"end":9883.357,"text":"所以我想那這是第一個問題那第二個問題是說他們也這是你們的調查也就是說他們覺得現在的運動時間跟空間都完全不夠所以我想問一下我們如何從運動部要如何跟教育部一起來努力讓我們有更多的運動時間這是第一個那空間的部分也要如何的努力呢是不是可以先請次長先回答簡單的回答"},{"start":9883.717,"end":9910.787,"text":"好 謝謝 謝謝委員的關心的確在學齡階段在體育課這個部分的業務目前的分工是在教育部那我們也知道在學生體育課上面因為他上面有一個課綱的一個限制他必須根據課綱來排課至於場地的部分 處於專項運動特別是競技運動類的設施運動部則無旁貸但是一般教育類的體育課類的設施目前的分工是由教育部來組長"},{"start":9911.647,"end":9925.943,"text":"好 那除非想要代付我們該如何解決這個問題呢因為這不是一年兩年的你可以看到那張表已經是好幾年包含我們的國際審查都是十年以上的問題這要如何解決是 我想原來在課綱裡頭就有體育的課程嘛"},{"start":9926.664,"end":9947.427,"text":"那教部會陸續督導就是各校能夠落實體育教學教學正常化體育課就避免被挪移這樣那另外的話其實就是學校其實還是有很多社團活動是體育社團這只有國小端啦國中以後就沒有了啦國中還是很少啦而且它只有一堂社團課啦"},{"start":9948.328,"end":9962.78,"text":"這是你們的調查報告嗎還是有一些團體活動或是彈性的活動的事件那有多少是拿來做運動的呢這應該非常少吧我想你們要不要更清楚的去掌握現實的困境因為我想"},{"start":9965.762,"end":9989.249,"text":"不是只有這個調查包含我們的這個去年也有發布一個台灣學生的身體活動量級跟全球依照兒童健康聯盟的指標我們只有到F級只有我們大概是怎麼等級呢跟印尼菲律賓差不多我們輸給日本跟韓國所以如果在我們的基礎的選手基層沒有做起來選手從哪裡來賽事怎麼辦我覺得這是一個很大的問題然後再來就是回到抱歉我們再回到次長"},{"start":9991.206,"end":10018.514,"text":"我們其實也有一些抱歉就是關於女性這個研究裡面其實也有了解說在女性在青少年的時候她們遇到什麼樣子的問題那她們基本上就是有講到一些成就感很低但是為什麼成就感很低挫折很高這個我看不到質化的研究我看不到任何的質化研究我不曉得說運動部這邊有沒有做相關的質化去了解女性不管是學生也好或是運動員也好她們遇到的困境到底是什麼有沒有掌握"},{"start":10018.914,"end":10034.844,"text":"目前這方面的研究議題我個人是沒有掌握啦不過從我過去長時間在這個領域的觀察因為我們過去的發展是以技能學習運動技能學習為主要的內涵那對於一些平常沒有那麼在從事身體活動的"},{"start":10036.005,"end":10061.489,"text":"特別是女生的學生他們會覺得沒有成就感所以我們希望未來在這方面的發展是朝著從基本的能力而不是競技能力簡單來說好不好就是次長可不可以答應我一件事情就是我們去了解做質問的了解徹底的了解為什麼女性的女生學生也好還有運動員選手他們不願意持續的做這樣子的運動為什麼他們對於運動的參與度這麼低我們是不是可以來做這部分的了解"},{"start":10062.049,"end":10087.583,"text":"來瞭解他的障礙在哪裡第二個部分還有就是企業我剛剛也聽到企業有投資很多的運動賽事然後這個金額也是增加的但是我想知道到底有沒有投資在基層的訓練上面呢目前的數量以我們目前看到的其實還沒有很高這也是為什麼抱歉委員這也是為什麼我們在未來在計算假設他的贊助的金額跟那個捐贈的金額是往基層走他的計算的方式是150%"},{"start":10090.263,"end":10117.149,"text":"但是我覺得有個實務面上的問題就是說這也是基層的軍運部告訴我的就是以FIFA來說他們的足球是要發展俱樂部的系統但日本也在2022年宣示了會從學校走向俱樂部可是他們要做俱樂部如果要去有這個主課場的時候他們要承租場地的時候遇到一個租約的一些相關的規範變成是說他們沒有辦法做長期的租但沒有辦法長期的租他就不可能去做更多的投資"},{"start":10118.109,"end":10143.499,"text":"對不對所以這個部分是不是可以來協調呢那另外一個還有就是廢校的一些場地是不是也可以跟教育部來協調如何讓企業可以進場因為企業是想要進場的這部分因為今天時間有限那我們是不是約時間來繼續來討論有關於如何讓企業來投資基層運動的這件事情可以嗎是的我們一起來討論好謝謝謝謝張雅婷委員來市長先回座下一位請蔡易餘委員"},{"start":10156.667,"end":10158.709,"text":"好 謝謝趙偉那我們是不是有請運動部次長運動部黃次長委員你好次長好"},{"start":10172.225,"end":10193.766,"text":"今天是在講這個運動產業不過我現在還是站在我們嘉義縣在嘉義縣主要在這個運動的場館來說基本上是相對其他地方來說是明顯的偏低我們舉以數字來說目前嘉義縣所有"},{"start":10194.767,"end":10220.739,"text":"就是把所有的運動項目加起來的一個場館就是只有28處那在全國的比例來說它就只有1.488那我們加一些面積也是很大這麼大的一個面積結果只有28個運動場館這運動場館還包括不同的運動項目有的可能是羽球有的可能是網球還是怎樣的一個運動場館但是就是只有28處"},{"start":10221.96,"end":10241.685,"text":"很明顯如果站在運動平權的一個概念來說相對其他縣市官價是偏弱那所以站在這一點的話我們希望是不是未來運動部在成立之後可以就所謂這一些不管是偏向也好或者是每一個縣市它的多少人口"},{"start":10242.165,"end":10255.86,"text":"他就必須要有多少的一個運動的一個空間給他們有足夠的一個運動的一個能量這件事是不是我們運動部這邊可以來做一個通盤的檢討呢是的我們會從這個方面來做努力"},{"start":10257.346,"end":10282.443,"text":"從這方面因為我事實上數字有拿給你看如果我們嘉義縣在這五到十年內大概新增的運動償款就只有三個五年內大概就只剩一個這個一個就是我們現在說的水上的全民運動中心所以你看這五年來其他的相對跟嘉義縣可能比較類似屬於農業縣的你看雲林就增加了五個"},{"start":10283.883,"end":10311.92,"text":"運動的一個場館苗栗也增加了三個花蓮也增加了四個這五年內我說這五年內嘉義就是在水上增加了一個運動中心所以如果以這樣來說未來有可能啦嘉義也有需要再有一些新的運動場館尤其是在人口集中人口就是比較相對比較都會化的一個地方像中埔的山河地區像民雄像鋪子"},{"start":10313.041,"end":10333.32,"text":"他們也是需要一個綜合的一個運動館所以這個當然未來不管是地方政府提報計畫我們還是希望運動部站在這一點可以多支持我們家一點這個可以嗎是的我們會努力來做這樣子方面的協助好那第二個我再來問就是說如果你現在就業金卡"},{"start":10334.994,"end":10355.205,"text":"就業金卡的一個數字因為我們知道就業金卡是吸引外國的這一些攬柴嘛讓這一些具有一些專門技術職業的人然後可以來台灣定居然後也讓台灣覺得是他們一個適合生活的一個地方結果以就業金卡目前看起來運動類"},{"start":10357.808,"end":10369.207,"text":"運動類大概就只有30個比例上0.19%也是明顯的偏低所以運動部有辦法打造出一個適合全世界運動的人才會來台灣"},{"start":10371.669,"end":10393.879,"text":"來台灣居住來台灣接受他平常的訓練有辦法打造出這樣的一個環境嗎根據目前的資料顯示這持有運動類型的金卡多數是運動員那其實在運動產業的發展當中其實有非常多的專業人才也可以透過這樣的機制進到台灣來而我們努力的方向就是希望能夠去招攬"},{"start":10394.739,"end":10417.689,"text":"各類的運動專業人才能夠透過這樣的機制來台灣協助我們一起來提升台灣運動產業的發展對那具體上說你們要怎麼去鼓勵這些運動專業當然不同的運動會有不同的他們的一個喜好啦可能這個國內這個國內他在哪一些運動是可能比較適合國內發展那可能相對的人才會來過去"},{"start":10419.17,"end":10435.689,"text":"因為對不起因為過去都是運動員那都是會有一個推薦單位也就是透過協會或是聯盟來推薦這個優秀的運動員那因為這樣的一個推薦他可以進來接下來我們就需要透過各方面的專業團體幫我們邀請比如說有國際上面非常會經營運動賽會的人才"},{"start":10440.434,"end":10458.207,"text":"我们台湾将要对我们台湾的运动赛会做整体的一个优质的改变我们要想办法去吸引这一类的人才到台湾来工作带领我们在运动赛会经营管理上面的一种提升如果这样的人才愿意来台湾我们会非常非常地欢迎"},{"start":10459.727,"end":10487.523,"text":"所以就是就辦理運動賽會這個也算是運動專業他就是可能就比較扣緊今天的主題叫做運動產業既然說我們運動如果整個產業的話包括整個運動這個的經營管理也都是運動的專業並不是只有不是只有運動員或者是防護員包括經營的人才都是屬於那如果以次長你現在來看起來"},{"start":10488.772,"end":10498.452,"text":"扣回今天的主題運動產業你認為台灣有辦法把體育運動變成產業的大概台灣目前都是哪些運動比較有機會"},{"start":10500.253,"end":10526.968,"text":"目前的運動發展以職業運動來說當然就是棒球籃球跟排球我們希望其實我們非常的希望看到是更多基層的因為我們目前在少年足球這一塊它的參與率其實是非常非常的高的比克球目前在基層也非常多人的參與因此這類型有很大基礎的參與人口的都有可能透過我們的引導跟協助跟透過地方俱樂部的一種引導"},{"start":10527.968,"end":10544.611,"text":"讓他成為一個生態系只要生態系可以建立的起來他就有機會成為一個產業我看我們地方我們地方國小事實上在推這個五人制足球事實上也都不錯很多國小他很願意去踢這個這個足球但是看起來"},{"start":10546.184,"end":10571.355,"text":"都在國小端 可能到了國高中後就忽然間這個運動就比較沒什麼看起來好像有一些銜接上的一個障礙這也是我們希望能夠把這個學生學校為單位這個概念慢慢的轉換為社區的俱樂部的概念透過外面的企業來支持這個俱樂部讓它可以永續的發展下去"},{"start":10571.775,"end":10596.702,"text":"好如果站在產業立場我認為的確應該是這樣去推動不同的運動他有不同的發展的面向那主要養成國人運動的一個風氣我想這是現在我們你們升格為運動部後應該要這樣去努力的好不好的確是好謝謝謝謝好謝謝蔡議員來次長先回座下一位資訊請徐護魁委員"},{"start":10607.826,"end":10633.856,"text":"謝主席,有請我們運動部黃政次運動部,黃次長喂,你好次長好,我想運動部是我們去年9月9號成立嘛那是一個受到國人高度關注的一個部會那尤其我們這個首任的部長是我們這個奧運金牌,我們李陽部長"},{"start":10634.796,"end":10660.962,"text":"那當然這個運動部的應該發揮的一個功能跟角色我想應該也是未來很多包含很多委員包含很多國人大家都會關注的一個部會但是在這個今天看到你們提出這個洋洋灑灑的報告之前我先請教次長一個問題次長你們目前的是一個新的單位你們目前的編制跟現原的狀況差距多少"},{"start":10662.526,"end":10682.558,"text":"應該還有將近30%還沒有到位30%沒有到位你們後續這些這麼多的業務怎麼推動因為他是公務人員我們必須要經過一個特定固定的管道來招募有招扣商調的也有包括通過高考的人進來他時間的確需要花一點時間"},{"start":10683.906,"end":10703.341,"text":"對啦 但是業務推動跟績效不會等你們人員到位才開始這的確是我們現在的同仁都非常非常的辛苦因為業務量並沒有因為人少而減少市長所以我想我還是要幫我們部裡面的同仁這個加油打氣啦因為這個因為大家承受的壓力都很大真的很辛苦"},{"start":10704.702,"end":10732.322,"text":"市長我想這個運動部已經把這個運動產業提升到國家戰略的一個層級這個我們非常肯定那我們也支持運動健康科技跟產業的結合讓運動不是只有競技更是一個國家發展的一個新動能但現在目前你們提出114年整體的一個運動產值高達6000多億但是看起來中央可能有一些大的方向要推動"},{"start":10733.263,"end":10762.327,"text":"但是回過頭來我們還是要提醒部裡面尤其像這個地方到底實際上能不能受到這個受益或者是在這個區域的發展上面能不能有這個運動產業的一個進駐我想是關心到整個區域發展很重要的一環那像屏東來講我們有東港大鵬灣海域杭村墾丁半島的一個國家公園遊憩區還有小琉球的一個水上活動"},{"start":10763.227,"end":10779.341,"text":"這樣的一個戶外運動跟水域的一個條件我想在臺灣是這個很有優勢的一個運動產業的一個發展的一個地區那就這樣的一個屏東縣的發展來講次長願不願意怎麼樣來協助屏東縣政府來做這樣的一個推動"},{"start":10779.921,"end":10794.034,"text":"跟委員報告目前我們的這個產值6000多億產值當中70%多是在製造業跟零售業也就是說我們服務類型的運動產業是相對的比較還有待去開發的而"},{"start":10795.875,"end":10816.225,"text":"以水域來說我了解我們全民署今年開始對於水域活動這一類的業務有專注的在推動從明年開始我們跟海委會一起來推動我們海洋運動海洋科技的這件事情所以就是說我們會找一些示範的場地如果有些場地適合的話我們優先的來選擇"},{"start":10817.896,"end":10841.768,"text":"我想因地制宜很重要啦 市長什麼樣的區域你們有山域的活動也有海域的一些活動我想用不一樣的這個在地的一些優勢特色然後把這些的運動產值觀光消費產值甚至一些運動賽事都可以帶進來像我舉屏東縣來講我們大概平均1.5個月就會辦一場全國性的一個賽事在屏東"},{"start":10842.908,"end":10860.008,"text":"但是我們看到的是除了這個選手很多人來這邊比賽之外我們跟著相對性的一些運動的一些產業的部分並沒有跟著進駐進來有點可惜啦所以我才會提醒市長說能不能去媒合這樣的一個相關的一些產業能夠進駐到屏東"},{"start":10861.83,"end":10884.937,"text":"是的 謝謝委員的關心的確在我們運發中心的一個任務之一其實就是要優化我們的賽事我們希望能夠透過這樣子的輔導讓地方的比賽不單單是只有運動員進來而已我們也更希望透過運動賽事的舉辦能夠吸引更多的家人旁邊的商品的一個銷售這樣子才有辦法去支撐一個地方產業的發展"},{"start":10886.537,"end":10902.191,"text":"像比如說我們現在未來我們屏東也要蓋一個一萬五千人的國際棒球場但是不能只來看打棒球未來住宿消費一些油氣的一些場域能不能同步來協助屏東縣政府一起來規劃一起來進行我們跟地方政府一起來合作好好那謝謝次長謝謝好謝謝習務委員"},{"start":10906.31,"end":10915.958,"text":"市長先回座接下來王美惠王美惠王美惠不在林德甫林德甫林德甫不在賴委員賴委員賴委員不在何俊仁何俊仁何俊仁不在消費資源請林倩其委員"},{"start":10927.796,"end":10932.279,"text":"好 謝謝我們主席邱昭偉本席在這邊請我們這個國發會的現在是藝術委還有我們運動部的黃次長謝謝"},{"start":10943.626,"end":10954.738,"text":"謝謝這個召委今天安排的這個題目所以本席長期也對運動的各項發展非常關注所以本席今天在這個經濟委員會想針對這個運動產業的一個百億基金的這個區域跟項目落地的問題來跟兩位做一個請教"},{"start":10962.666,"end":10985.986,"text":"所以本席今天要請教是運動產業的投資政策那特別是兩個我們的部會所協作的主題式的百億基金怎麼樣落實在水域運動跟花東地區那麼國發會透過這個百億基金來支持運動產業那麼也針對教練還有防護員等產業鏈在進行資金的挹注那另外呢運動部也依據我們這個運動發展條例規劃了10年100億的一個投資方案"},{"start":10990.269,"end":11014.39,"text":"那現在有一些政策基礎也有資金來源但是本席關注的是那個資金會投到哪裡那怎麼投這是還是怎麼能夠解決真正的結構的問題所以本席就兩方面來做一個請教第一個是水域運動那臺南四面環海那本席長期也關注水域運動那剛才在前面委員的一個詢答上我們也聽到次長說未來在全民的水域運動上"},{"start":11015.271,"end":11034.026,"text":"也會有更積極的作為所以本席在這邊非常的欣慰所以長期的一個推動也感謝部裡面這樣一個支持所以在台灣這樣一個四面環海的國家那我們終於在水域上那我希望未來也是可以在法規上再做一些各部會跟緊密的一些連結來推動水域的一個捷徑"},{"start":11037.368,"end":11056.694,"text":"但是因為我們先前長期的都一些比較零散的推動那場域教練防護跟租賃設備還有保險的機制尤其是保險都缺乏一些產業鏈那麼如果以百億基金的角度來看本席認為這個水域運動其實是非常適合成為一個大標的"},{"start":11057.594,"end":11080.933,"text":"那也是非常特色的一個標的剛才次長這邊有提到這個當然在產業推動上目前已經有數量的當然有一些就是團體型的運動那但是呢台灣的這個水域的條件其實是可以成為世界在運動方面的一個很重要的特色所以我們是不是有機會來支持區域型的水域運動中心然後投資"},{"start":11081.753,"end":11097.846,"text":"水域安全教育跟水域運動教練的一個培訓體系而且來發展結合觀光的海洋運動成業鏈那本席請教運動部跟國發會目前是不是已經將水域運動納入相關的投資方案"},{"start":11098.889,"end":11125.632,"text":"這個部分是不是可以請部會這邊來做一個回應第一個就是說我們國發會的那個100億資金的話我們會尊重各部會的專業判斷以及他每一個部會裡面會有一個審查的機制那至於那謝謝那本席在這邊就呼籲因為水域長期有被忽略掉所以請國發會這邊在水域的一個運動上可以用比較支持的而且推動的一個概念來支持這樣一個基金的投入"},{"start":11126.993,"end":11142.067,"text":"對因為未來國防會會推動一個投資整合平台啦那這個整合平台上面我們可以建議啦建議運動部在這水域方面的話可以多多多多投資一些資金這樣子那謝謝齁那這個部分本期要先針對我們知道運動部"},{"start":11143.288,"end":11170.198,"text":"不過剛才我想在水域的部分都有做很本席這個私下也都做一些推動那一些專業的一個建議那也謝謝運動部在剛才我聽到次長針對其他委員的一些回應那應該也聽到了有一些結果那麼第二部分是有關於花東地區那本席在總質詢其實有針對運動的部分跟院長做一些請教結果院長竟然很明確的來對本席表示"},{"start":11170.678,"end":11193.559,"text":"未來在運動場館培訓跟管理的這個部分有記號性的想要往東部來發展那所以本席在這邊要談的是說那花東是不是已經成為優先投資的一個區域還是如同其他很多委員都關注的那是不是最終資源還是會因為既有的型態而留在這個所謂的比較人口密集的都會區"},{"start":11194.62,"end":11219.497,"text":"那本席這邊補充一下花東地區其實具備了很多條件那第一個是運動人才的基礎深厚那尤其是原住民族的選手的比例非常高但是常常都人才在這個花東可是常常都因為這個現狀的這個狀況那流落到他鄉那第二個部分是自然環境也非常適合的水域運動跟戶外的這個運動"},{"start":11221.118,"end":11244.344,"text":"那也具備了發展運動觀光跟區域產業的一個潛力但是目前問題就如同剛才本席講的人才在花東資源在西部場地在地方人才也在地方可是產業鏈卻沒有在地形成那所以本席這邊請教百利基金有沒有納入區域平衡作為政策目標第二個部分是是不是會設計專門對花東或偏鄉地區的投資機制確保資源能夠進入東部並且深耕發展"},{"start":11250.546,"end":11267.056,"text":"最後在部會的整 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