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謝謝"},{"start":2431.24,"end":2455.697,"text":"我們這個做一個結論企業併購法部分條文修正草案黨團協商玩具協商結論我們這個通過條文52-1就是當時保留的部分我們正式通過依照行政院我們的版本通過那其餘條文及附帶決議經照審查會審查結果通過謝謝大家 散會"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:00:15+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:33:30.206000+08:00","text":"依照出席委員的簽署狀況可以進行我們的協商，三個黨團都有代表出席，非常感謝。","quality":0.235},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:33:30.206000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:33:31.487000+08:00","text":"現在開始進行協商。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:33:32.568000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:33:39.552000+08:00","text":"本案於 114 年 11 月 10 日本院第 11 屆第 4會期經濟委員會第 10 次全體委\n員會議進行審查，由本席擔任召委，委員會審查結論：增訂第四十四條之二條文，照行政院提\n案通過。","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:33:55.060000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:33:59.741000+08:00","text":"增訂第五章之一章名，照行政院提案通過。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:33:59.741000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:34:05.142000+08:00","text":"增訂第五十二條之一條文，所有提案均保\n留，送院會處理。","quality":0.783},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:34:05.622000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:34:11.123000+08:00","text":"第五十四條條文，照行政院提案通過。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:34:11.464000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:34:24.347000+08:00","text":"通過附帶決議四項，院會交付協商的\n提案有邱志偉委員、陳亭妃委員、楊瓊瓔委員三件提案，於本次會議併案協商。","quality":0.891},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:34:26.430000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:34:36.341000+08:00","text":"增訂第四十四條之二條文，審查會結論是照行政院提案通過，請問各位委員有無意見？","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:34:38.458000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:34:44.426000+08:00","text":"（無）\n沒有意見的話，我們就照審查會審查結果通過。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:34:44.426000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:34:52.879000+08:00","text":"增訂第五章之一章名，審查會結論是照行政院提案通過，請問委員有沒有意見？","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:34:54.520000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:34:59.004000+08:00","text":"（無）沒有\n的話，我們就照審查會審查結果通過。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:34:59.004000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:35:08.493000+08:00","text":"增訂第五十二條之一條文，審查會結論是所有提案均保留送院會處理，我們先請經濟部進行\n說明。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"江次長文若","start":"2026-04-15T12:35:08.513000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:35:25.158000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席、在座的兩位委員──洪召委以及鄭委員。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"江次長文若","start":"2026-04-15T12:35:26.199000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:36:14.106000+08:00","text":"經濟部說明第五十二條之一，我\n們院版所提的罰鍰額度是參照產業創新條例，還有生技醫藥發展條例相關的規定，因為這兩個\n條例跟產業有關，這次企併法也是為了要提升我們產業的發展環境，而且希望中小企業能夠做\n相關的整併，來擴大它的規模，能夠資源共享，所以，我們希望大院能夠同意，因為循例前面\n有產創條例還有生技發展條例這樣的體例，我們希望大院能夠支持院版，以上。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:36:15.207000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:36:17.588000+08:00","text":"有跟所有的委員溝通過嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:36:17.588000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:36:23.751000+08:00","text":"就是我們當時審查的時候，有一些委員有意見，都有溝通過了嗎\n？","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:36:23.751000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-15T12:36:24.812000+08:00","text":"218\n立法院公報 第 115卷 第 31期 黨團協商紀錄有。","quality":0.062},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:36:24.812000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:36:46.841000+08:00","text":"好，我剛剛為了慎重起見，也有跟當時有發言的幾位委員確認過，他們都沒有意見，基本上\n就照院版通過，跟協商會議的所有委員報告，我們就照行政院提案通過。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:36:46.841000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:36:54.223000+08:00","text":"第五十四條條文，審查會結論是照行政院提案通過，請問各位委員有無意見？","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:36:54.223000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:37:00.245000+08:00","text":"（無）沒有的\n話，我們就照審查會審查結果通過。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:37:02.405000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:37:08.587000+08:00","text":"針對四項附帶決議，請問各位委員有無意見？","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:37:08.587000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:37:11.308000+08:00","text":"（無）沒有的話，我們就照審查會審查結果通\n過。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:37:16.126000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:37:17.247000+08:00","text":"請鄭正鈐委員。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-15T12:37:17.247000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:37:17.387000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-15T12:37:18.028000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:37:41.968000+08:00","text":"原則上，我們針對這一次修法其實是朝向支持的角度，不過，因為當時委\n員質詢的時候，有提到修法一些要特別注意的地方，比方只針對大企業，產業控股的租稅優惠\n方向正確，但是對中小企業可能用不太起，所以這部分我們也希望請經濟部特別關注一下。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-15T12:37:42.489000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:37:48.953000+08:00","text":"另外，就推動產業控股公司本應成熟，五年 15 家，是不是一成不變？","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-15T12:37:51.696000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:37:54.479000+08:00","text":"什麼叫做一定的規模才\n可以進入這部分？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-15T12:37:55.279000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:37:56.721000+08:00","text":"合併有沒有遞延課稅的機制？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-15T12:37:57.241000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:38:02.206000+08:00","text":"也希望經濟部能夠多加考慮，進一步說明，謝\n謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"江次長文若","start":"2026-04-15T12:38:06.951000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:38:19.722000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的提問，第一個，我們並沒有限產業別，各類型的產業別都可以，如果他們\n有這樣的意願，我們都會進行相關的輔導。","quality":1},{"speaker":"江次長文若","start":"2026-04-15T12:38:19.722000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:38:27.828000+08:00","text":"至於加速這些 KPI 等問題，還有後續相關的規定，\n我是不是可以請國發會來說明？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-15T12:38:33.786000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:38:35.588000+08:00","text":"主席、召委還有委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-15T12:38:35.588000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:38:50.439000+08:00","text":"就這部分來講，規模以及家數部分，我們有跟財政部做過\n一些協商，財政部表達的應該跟我們是一樣的想法，對不對？","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-15T12:38:51.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:39:07.455000+08:00","text":"所以基本上，五年 15 家這部分，\n當然這是我們的目標，我們希望達到，而 3億這部分財政部也同意這個方向，以上。OK。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"洪委員毓祥","start":"2026-04-15T12:39:10.037000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:39:35.546000+08:00","text":"我補充一下，因為政府最大單位其實法規都這樣子訂，其實我們也都鼓勵，剛剛鄭委\n員問的問題，像一些新興的產業，尤其像這種軟體資服產業一些併購或是控股，他在這個地方\n可能也需要去努力一下，這是第一個。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"洪委員毓祥","start":"2026-04-15T12:39:36.486000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:39:56.403000+08:00","text":"第二個，我覺得因為國發會將來會認定哪些是產業控股公司，所以我覺得這些程序、機制、\n審議文件、審查委員等等最好是公開上網，避免將來有一些認定的糾紛，好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪委員毓祥","start":"2026-04-15T12:39:56.563000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:40:01.327000+08:00","text":"我覺得這是\n執行力的問題，也跟亭妃委員做個說明。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-04-15T12:40:03.208000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:40:07.049000+08:00","text":"就公開上網這部分，我想應該是可以的。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-15T12:40:09.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-15T12:40:39.903000+08:00","text":"我們請主委這邊，因為其實我們在附帶決議第三案，就是針對我們委員所擔心的部分，針對\n15 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