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资讯服务费冻结10%为黄人等人提案第六案至第七案为第二幕国内庆典活动接待服务业务费之提案第六案冻结100万元为刘许婷等人提案第七案冻结100万元为马文君等人提案第八案至第十五案为第二幕研究发展及专案业务之提案第八案冻结50万元为林楚英等人提案第九案冻结100万元"},{"start":2298.673,"end":2302.515,"text":"第十四案,一般事务费减列50万元为黄人等提案。"},{"start":2320.728,"end":2334.313,"text":"第15案 獎補助費 減利100萬元 凍結5%委員黃建斌等提案第16案 第3目 僑民僑團聯繫接待及僑教中心服務凍結100萬元委員沈伯陽等提案第17至第18案為第3目 加強僑社聯繫及輔助舉辦多元活動之提案第17案 凍結5%委員劉許廷等提案第18案 減利200萬元委員馬文君等提案第19案至第24案為第3目"},{"start":2348.564,"end":2364.382,"text":"举办桥社工作研讨会及邀访与培训活动落实桥务工作之提案第19案冻结三分之一委员罗美林等人提案第20案冻结100万元委员林楚英等人提案第21案应用费冻结5%委员黄建斌等人提案"},{"start":2365.66,"end":2382.125,"text":"第二十二案一般事務費凍結一百萬元委員陳俊雲等人提案第二十三案一般事務費減列三十萬元委員黃仁等人提案第二十四案對國內團體資捐助減列兩萬元委員王逸川等人提案第二十五案次第二十七案為第三幕"},{"start":2382.847,"end":2401.546,"text":"海外华侨文教中心服务业务制提案第25案冻结300万元委员牛许婷等人提案第26案冻结200万元委员马文君等人提案第27案设备及投资减列50万元委员黄仁等人提案第28至第30案为第三目海外华语文学习深耕计划制提案"},{"start":2403.56,"end":2408.981,"text":"28案 凍結500萬元為劉許廷等人提案第29案 凍結300萬元為馬文君等人提案第30案 設備及投資凍結10%為黃建斌等人提案第31案 第四目 橋下發展及文化社交補助業務費減劣20萬元為黃仁等人提案第32案 至第40案為第四目 海外華語文學習深耕計畫之提案第32案 凍結1%為劉許廷等人提案第33案"},{"start":2431.612,"end":2441.783,"text":"凍結10%委員徐巧欣等人提案第34案凍結500萬元委員馬文君等人提案第35案凍結300萬元委員劉雪婷等人提案第36案凍結200萬元委員"},{"start":2443.089,"end":2459.656,"text":"林祖英等人提案,第37案凍結100萬元委員王定宇等人提案,第38案凍結100萬元委員沈伯陽等人提案,第39案凍結100萬元委員羅美玲等人提案,第40案檢列100萬元委員黃仁等人提案,第41案第5目,橋上經濟業務凍結300萬元委員林祖英等人提案,第42至第44案為第5目,培訓橋台商經貿人才協助橋台商企業發展,"},{"start":2469.881,"end":2475.765,"text":"指提案第42案凍結100萬元委員劉雪婷等人提案第43案業務費凍結100萬元委員馬文君等人提案第44案業務費凍結100萬元委員陳俊宇等人提案第15案至第52案為第5目海外華人經濟資訊回收並促進海內外商機交流之提案第45案凍結10%委員徐巧欣等人提案第46案業務費凍結100萬元"},{"start":2495.7,"end":2500.644,"text":"委員馬文君等人提案,第47案,業務費減列80萬元為黃人等人提案。第48案,對國內團體資捐助減列100萬元為黃人等人提案。第49案,對國內團體資捐助凍結10%為黃建斌等人提案。第50案,對國內團體資捐助凍結1000萬元為劉雪婷等人提案。第51案,對國內團體資捐助凍結300萬元為陳永康等人提案。"},{"start":2522.503,"end":2538.869,"text":"第52案對國內團體資捐助凍結100萬元委員王定宇等提案第53案凍結50萬元委員馬文君等提案第54至第70案為第6目擴大培育及留生扭用僑生之提案第54案凍結1億2"},{"start":2540.694,"end":2554.4,"text":"一千兩百九十萬元委員盧梅林等人提案第五十五案凍結五%委員王安祥等人提案第五十六案凍結五%委員王安祥等人提案第五十七案凍結五%委員徐巧欣等人提案第五十八案凍結三千萬元"},{"start":2555.441,"end":2562.625,"text":"委員劉許廷等人提案第59案凍結500萬元委員王安祥等人提案第60案凍結500萬元委員林楚英等人提案第61案凍結200萬元委員王安祥等人提案第62案凍結200萬元委員王定雲等人提案第63案凍結100萬元委員王安祥等人提案第64案凍結100萬元委員沈伯陽等人提案第65案凍結100萬元委員沈伯陽等人提案第66案檢列100萬元"},{"start":2582.377,"end":2592.304,"text":"委員黃仁等提案第67案一般數務費凍結50萬元委員王安祥等提案第68案獎補助費凍結500萬元委員馬文君等提案第69案獎補助費凍結200萬元委員劉許廷等提案第70案對私校職獎助凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第71案第6目輔導海外僑生來台升學及畢業留台"},{"start":2607.516,"end":2629.76,"text":"凍結一百萬元委員劉喜廷等提案第七十二至第七十三案為第六目輔導海外青年來台文化研習集團隊活動之提案第七十二案凍結兩百萬元委員林楚英等提案第七十三案凍結兩百萬元委員馬文君等提案第七十四至第七十五案為第七目僑務新聞資訊及傳媒服務之提案"},{"start":2630.339,"end":2638.964,"text":"第74案檢列698萬9千元委員黃建斌等人提案第75案凍結100萬元委員羅美玲等人提案第76至第78案為第7目辦理僑務新聞資訊及傳媒服務之提案第76案凍結10%委員羅美玲等人提案第77案一般數目費檢列50萬元凍結50萬元委員馬文君等人提案第78案一般數目費凍結"},{"start":2658.432,"end":2675.636,"text":"10%委員徐巧欣等提案第79案至第81案為第7目海外華語文學習深耕計劃業務費之提案第79案檢列500萬元委員馬文君等提案第80案檢列60萬元委員黃仁等提案第81案約用人員籌金檢列15萬元委員黃仁等提案第82案至第97案為主決議現在宣讀主決議之內容"},{"start":2686.854,"end":2688.123,"text":"第82案 建請僑務委員會以兩個月內就"},{"start":2690.305,"end":2719.072,"text":"扩大在美设立华语语文学习中心据点计划及开拓新兴国家之可行性向立法院外交及国防委员会提出书面报告提案人委员王安祥等人第83案115年度侨务委员会第6幕向下编列办理侨生迎新接待侨生辅导培训及心理辅导支援等事宜编列预算818万1千元建起侨务委员会阵列事项预算并强化心理辅导相关资源"},{"start":2719.639,"end":2721.862,"text":"提案人委員王逸川等人第84案115年度僑務委員會第二幕綜合規劃業務向下研究發展及專案業務"},{"start":2729.264,"end":2750.598,"text":"办理台湾青年海外搭桥计划928万7千元,建请桥务委员会推广并研议整列相关预算。体验人委员王逸川等人。第85案,115年度桥务委员会第7幕向下,海外华语文学习深耕计划透过行销宣传规划特设专栏及办理行销赔利课程。"},{"start":2751.599,"end":2762.377,"text":"既編列預算1095萬8千億元本計劃應甄列並推廣相關行銷宣傳及品牌推廣經費提案人員王逸川等人第86案鑑於美國"},{"start":2763.297,"end":2791.556,"text":"對等關稅政策對全球貿易影響極大,各地橋台商恐受衝擊。建請僑務委員會應及時掌握相關資訊,給予新南向國家及受美國對等關稅政策影響之橋台商充分資源。體驗人委員沈伯陽等人第87案,鑒於115年度預算因審查延宕,致使新增預算無法如期運用,影響部分業務執行。建請僑務委員會於三個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出新增預算執行規劃之書面報告。"},{"start":2793.357,"end":2817.868,"text":"提案人委員沈博洋等人第88案 台灣僑民遍佈全球傳出僑胞遭遇打壓與不當對待之情勢僑委員會因署名如何與駐外管處及當地僑台僑團緊密協調請僑委員會於三個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案人委員林楚英等人"},{"start":2818.468,"end":2839.069,"text":"第89案,侨务委员会应主动检视现行相关制度与规定,适时反映给主管机关具以严厉更具弹性与时效的留用措施以扩大侨生留台就业比例,并进一步强化其对我国产业发展所能带来之人利益助与助益。提案人委员陈永康等人第90案。"},{"start":2839.669,"end":2861.552,"text":"侨务委员会自106年开始办理台湾青年海外搭桥计划令侨务委员会于114年开始配合政府推动青年百亿海外圆梦基金计划令鉴于两项业务性质已有重叠因注意部分部会之分工及因各自区隔性质工作内容及成效提案人委员陈永康等人第91案"},{"start":2863.444,"end":2891.35,"text":"建請僑務委員會積極掌握中國新型統戰跨境鎮壓及常備管轄等作為之發展趨勢與具體手法建立預警通報及資訊查核機制研議必要之協助與應處措施提案委員陳俊雲等人第九十二案建請僑務委員會持續收集海外僑民意見檢討僑民意難相關申辦機制在兼顧兵役公平及資格查核之前提下研議以數位化方式"},{"start":2891.87,"end":2904.874,"text":"合法及领取华侨身份证明书或评估于其他区域增设申办据点提案人委员陈俊宇等人第九十三案侨务委员会因针对海外华语文学习深耕计划之"},{"start":2905.342,"end":2926.137,"text":"续办依据计划期程、经费配置及绩效目标,建立完整检讨与追踪机制,并于三个月内向立法院外交及国防委员会提出书面报告。提案人委员陈冠廷等人,第九十四案,全国委员会应会同财团法人海外信用保证基金,针对115年度新增捐助款之必要性与预期效益。"},{"start":2926.601,"end":2951.535,"text":"建立具体财务及绩效评估机制并于三个月内向立法院外交及国防委员会提出书面报告提案人委员陈冠廷等人第九十五案为强化乔生毕业留台医院降低我国高科技产业缺工制问题原要求乔务委员会因事实配合国家产业发展需求滚动调整产息专班内科之设置并于一个月内提出精进作为书面报告"},{"start":2952.062,"end":2977.043,"text":"提案人委員黃建斌等人第九十六案鄭景橋委員會於既有歐美推動計劃之餘另行研議將非洲、南美洲及東南亞等新興國家或地區連同日本、韓國等亞太重點國家一併納入台灣華語文學習中心設置計劃之中長程發展重點並於三個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案人委員羅美林等人第九十七案"},{"start":2978.328,"end":2995.705,"text":"侨务委员会应就台商执民、执女及侨民执女返国就学之华语适应需求主动与教育部延伸华语补助教学支援是否得以扩及相关族群并于三个月内向立法院外交及国防委员会提出书面报告提案人为罗美林等人宣读完毕"},{"start":3012.492,"end":3025.824,"text":"現在議事人員選讀完畢在進行主案討論之前向各位說明我們依循網利處理原則第一如果僑委會已經向提案委員說明並達成共識請直接報告溝通成果或凍結刪減建議數額委員如有其他提問請再補充說明"},{"start":3034.992,"end":3038.734,"text":"第二 預算提案以分支計劃為併案原則並視討論情形彈性處理併案凍結或刪減以選擇其中一個提案為主案的方式處理第三 主提案委員不在場的提案原則上不予處理謝謝各位那現在進行審查"},{"start":3056.789,"end":3077.048,"text":"有關僑委會主管預算稅入部分以及兩個信託基金雙手跟公益基金和受理捐贈僑生獎助學金及監困地區僑民學校私資補助金基金因為沒有提案所以預算數照列接下來處理稅出部分第一案請僑委會說明"},{"start":3084.964,"end":3109.882,"text":"跟趙偉琦說有人報告第一案已經跟委員進行溝通我們就照案同意 照列黃委員謝謝趙偉琦這個案子就撬開在115年度的這個水電的預算相較於114年度是比較高那增加服務高達14%"},{"start":3111.423,"end":3137.398,"text":"那經過僑委會的說明我想各國的水電的計劃方式也不同那這樣二次戰爭這個影響能源的負擔也增加為了避免我們115年的這個水電的費用不足所以編列較高的預算資金這個我們可以理解但是這邊也要請僑委會還是要督促這些橋外的這些中心的絕業用電那水電費本身這邊可以同一照例但我們也要求僑委會這必須嚴格督促這些橋外中心"},{"start":3138.278,"end":3146.321,"text":"例行的這個節用電的措施那同時也請橋外會提供這些橋外中心書面的這些節電的作為以上感謝黃委員好 同意照列第一案照列接下來第二到第三案"},{"start":3160.075,"end":3173.502,"text":"第二案及第三案分別由馬文君委員及黃仁委員提出經過溝通後同意並案檢列二十萬並科目自行調整以上報告"},{"start":3176.797,"end":3201.776,"text":"本席是第二案我先說明一下好了因為就這個部分當然他這個專用車輛使用年限是已經到了不過他的這個里程數其實是還沒有可能不到10萬公里所以其實我們還是希望在更換的同時還是一樣能夠尊潔開支所以同意減列20萬謝謝趙偉"},{"start":3207.065,"end":3233.89,"text":"黃仁委員不在那我們併案簡列二十萬以第二案毛文君委員的提案為主案好接下來併案處理四到五案第四案第五案為分別是黃建斌委員及黃仁委員提案兩位委員經溝通後都同意改併案為主決議以上剖明謝謝"},{"start":3237.089,"end":3265.708,"text":"黃委員好 謝謝曹偉現在會檢列這個這項預算主要是因為僑委會在114年跟115年規劃辦的這個項目很接近那經過僑委會到辦公室來說明那增加預算的經費是會多放在這個提高網路安全安全性那三檢經費本體這邊可以同意照例但是僑委會內部網路安全到底是在抵禦哪一類的攻擊跟滲透那僑委會必須要給本體這邊相關的資料"},{"start":3267.269,"end":3282.054,"text":"那另外針對AI的使用 本是認為橋友會的規劃仍然僅止於這個初步的這個文書利用我希望橋友會可以強化AI的利用 而不是只有在郵件管理行政作業 還有文書處理 優化這些項目那以上好 謝謝黃委員好 四五案是都改列組決議那是併案改一個組決議 還是兩個組決議併案改一個組決議是好那以"},{"start":3297.523,"end":3315.14,"text":"第四案黃健...那個剛剛黃人委員說他...黃金編委員同意照列,謝謝好,那第四案同意照列,第五案改組決議現在併案處理第六到第七案"},{"start":3316.623,"end":3329.574,"text":"第六案分別是由劉許廷委員及馬文君委員所提案經溝通結果同意改為併案主決議以上說明併案嗎那個劉委員沒有主決議嗎劉委員好像因為我們也有主決議併馬委員的主決議他要併你的主決議併一個主決議"},{"start":3343.936,"end":3371.436,"text":"第六、第七案以第七案改組決議現在辯案處理八到十五案請說明第八案到第十五案分別由林楚英委員、牛許廷委員、馬文君委員、陳俊宇委員、羅美玲委員、馬文君委員、黃仁委員及黃建斌委員以上所提議這個第十八案是"},{"start":3373.497,"end":3400.563,"text":"第八案同意改為主決議那第九案跟十還有十四十五以上四案呢合併凍結五十萬書面報告後使得凍支那十一案跟十二案呢也經過通報同意改併為主決議第十三案呢是簡列二十萬那科目自行自行調整以上說明謝謝主席"},{"start":3404.477,"end":3428.435,"text":"好謝謝主席 請林委員好 我想吼 我的是第八案啦那首先我先講我是可以改成主決議但是我也希望藉由發言還是提醒一下僑委會就是我們都知道我這個部分關注的是你們的心智上面那麼就是有關於防止假僑民徵逃兵這樣的一個過程那麼我們希望維持這個兵役的公平性那麼這完全是利益良善本席完全支持"},{"start":3428.835,"end":3440.789,"text":"但是我相信在這些僑民他們過去可能成長主要大部分的時候是在海外地區所以他們會有語言上面包括宣傳上面那些部分所以我還是希望透過這個主決議加強雙語的諮詢然後我們也知道今年已經開辦了所謂的南部的這樣一個據點"},{"start":3448.157,"end":3463.63,"text":"那流程簡化等等的部分我還是希望能夠給予加強然後在宣傳上不要導致落差那麼另外一個部分當然就是7月推出的數位證明的部分那麼未來可能會採取線上辦理那我們都知道其實像線上辦理"},{"start":3464.451,"end":3477.846,"text":"但是AI然後很多的網路技術的精進我們也希望在防弊或是造假的這個部分你們能夠加強那麼我也要幫羅美玲委員來就是發言一下就是有關於她曾經在質詢橋委會的時候也有針對就是I橋卡這個部分那麼她特別強調的就是"},{"start":3483.632,"end":3486.654,"text":"當然我們現在我們的宣傳的預算的部分被在野黨砍的幾乎就是刀刀劍骨然後能夠運用的有限但是我們知道的是在這樣的過程當中很需要的是宣傳的金分因為他們不在國內他們在海外"},{"start":3499.542,"end":3528.427,"text":"那麼如何讓他們了解僑委會的這些變名的措施那麼這個部分是羅美玲委員非常堅持就是希望說我們在對外宣傳跟僑胞服務上面它的重要性所以只能請僑委會在這個有限的能力有限的經費底下然後來加強宣傳好感謝林祖英委員的提醒我們會加強 謝謝那其他委員有沒有要補充說明的部分"},{"start":3529.998,"end":3556.039,"text":"那本席先提兩案好了我們第十跟十三案第十案同意改病案凍結五十萬不過因為我們這個青年海外搭橋計畫已經行之有年可是我們每年都在增加這些相關的預算經費從五百九十萬大概現在已經調增到"},{"start":3557.216,"end":3569.933,"text":"明年已經到920幾萬了一直在增加那這些部分我們看到在資格條件的部分還有歷年參加的人員"},{"start":3572.877,"end":3584.705,"text":"其實幾乎都是北部它的佔比高達七八十%以上可是在中部南部的佔比例是偏低東部更少所以這個部分我們希望還是可以調節一下不管是公平性也好或者因為我們這種搭橋計畫我們也希望"},{"start":3594.831,"end":3616.446,"text":"讓它北中南東都可以有一個發展的機會所以這個部分希望可以提出一些精進的那個做法還有一些相關的這個條件是什麼也請補充說明那第13案的部分因為我們看到這一個部分這個是針對我們辦理僑民證照服務櫃檯的業務"},{"start":3621.937,"end":3640.286,"text":"還有青年百億海外圓夢基金計劃還有台灣青年海外搭橋計劃等相關業務可是百億海外圓夢基金這個基本上是教育部的一個計劃那海外搭橋計劃這個也是剛剛提到我們這個也行之有年"},{"start":3640.886,"end":3645.591,"text":"所以主要增加的可能就是針對僑民證照服務櫃檯的業務我們已經在114年就已經新增了一名臨時人員現在又要增加兩位那為了這樣的一個業務我們增加了三個臨時人員的這樣的員額我們一直以來都希望公部門其實可以"},{"start":3662.049,"end":3684.804,"text":"在業務量或者人員上面其實我們一直在精簡可是像這樣的業務必須要增加這麼多的人員是他的在業務執行上面是不是有什麼樣的狀況或者我們這個業務會造成這麼多的人力的支出這個可能也是應該要去注意的方向所以我們還是同意"},{"start":3689.102,"end":3696.051,"text":"編列相關的預算不過我們減略20萬希望可以去妥善的運用這樣的人力資源還沒有還沒有好 感謝委員的提醒我們會在這方面再繼續清淨好 謝謝"},{"start":3706.254,"end":3715.52,"text":"好 黃建編委員謝謝召委 召委本席提的是第15案那我想關於本案本席要強調會刪減這個預算主要是因為我們113年 114年這個年度的這個預算的分別編列是255萬3千 303萬9千這都比115年的預算少而且相關辦的計畫項目相似"},{"start":3729.148,"end":3756.386,"text":"另外台灣青年海外搭橋計劃114年跟125年入取的學員人數都是84位但是115年你該項的獎補助預算卻比114年暴增兩倍以上我想這非常的不合理喬偉惠有到辦公室來說比如說因為115年的預算是因為要把過去業務費改編在獎補助費當中但是我還是要跟喬偉惠來說就是說獎補助青年去海外這本席絕對支持"},{"start":3757.407,"end":3781.934,"text":"我覺得支持但是補助要有效益要有成果那預算書我可以照例不刪除但是也請教會把這幾年你海外青年海外這個青年海外搭橋的這個成效的這個以用書面的資料提供給我們委員會也讓我們立法院知道說你們的成果是哪些那以上謝謝黃委員提醒好 牛委員有沒有要補充的你同意改組決議嗎"},{"start":3783.728,"end":3812.068,"text":"可以,我配合大家第九案可以,可以,這我們講好了好,那我們一案一案宣告第八案改組決議第九案改組決議第十案併動五十萬提出面報告經同意後,使得動之十一案改組決議十二案改組決議十三案減列二十萬"},{"start":3814.679,"end":3835.094,"text":"科目字條十四案委員不在不予處理十五案照列好現在我們處理第十六案請說明第十六案是沈伯陽委員所提案經溝通後已同意改為主決議以上說明謝謝"},{"start":3836.394,"end":3863.401,"text":"好 沈委員好 我講一下就是說應該有溝通過通過組決議所以這個沒什麼問題但最主要就是再強調一下就是我們對喬教中心的期待真的很高那過往當然就是以文化活動為主那我們是希望說這個跟我們其他部會合作的一些可行性因為我們的部會其實能夠做外交的真的非常的多那喬委會能夠能夠應用這樣的資源不只是跟文化活動以外的活動的一些可行性如果能夠參考的話"},{"start":3864.381,"end":3868.724,"text":"我覺得對喬教中心整體的提升會有幫助那同意改組決議沒有問題第16案改組決議現在補宣告第5案因提案委員不在場不予處理現在併案處理17到18案請說明"},{"start":3884.251,"end":3899.458,"text":"十七案是牛許廷委員所提案十八案是馬文君委員所提案兩案呢牛許廷委員部分呢經說明後同意改為主決議十八案是馬委員所提案要為此減列兩百萬十八案的部分本席說明一下我們同意還是"},{"start":3911.618,"end":3920.6,"text":"保留大部分的預算不過因為今年編了大概700多萬我們減列200萬主要是因為現在已經接近7月過了大半的時間也沒有具體出訪海外的這些橋宴的規劃不管總統或相關人員所以這個部分我們就減列200萬我們也希望有些預算我們還是遵截開支"},{"start":3942.013,"end":3951.02,"text":"好那現在委員可不可以同意那個叫做自行調整預算好我們第17案改組決議第18案簡列200萬科目字條現在併案處理19到24案請說明"},{"start":3960.391,"end":3975.557,"text":"十九案是羅委員所提議十九到二十四案分別是羅美玲委員、林楚瑩委員、黃建斌委員、陳俊宇委員、黃蓮委員及黃逸川委員所提案"},{"start":3977.618,"end":3995.248,"text":"第十九案部分呢經溝通後羅美玲委員同意改組決議二十二十一到二十三呢經溝通後呢都同意然後並案統結五十萬那書面報告後使得動之 以上說明第二十四案是王逸川委員堅持檢列兩萬科目字條 以上好 林楚瑩委員"},{"start":4005.967,"end":4026.548,"text":"好 謝謝主席我所關注的就是有關於我們僑委會的青年培育平台這個部分那麼其實我從過去一直以來包括在114年的總預算當中我都非常關注有關於我們這樣的一個計畫是不是有拓展到歐洲地區那我必須要講的是過去一直長期以來都"},{"start":4027.268,"end":4047.637,"text":"關注在北美那麼拓展到亞洲跟南美但是歐洲確實在這個平台上面都是一直掛鈴的部分那麼經過僑委會的溝通有特別提到的是即將要有籌備巴黎分會這個部分那麼我們也都知道尤其是像你看這幾天包括台海的安全的部分我們幾個歐洲的有"},{"start":4049.818,"end":4064.391,"text":"友邦都在他們的駐台代表處發布了挺台灣尤其是維護台海安全也就是看得出來說我們在台歐的交流是越來越密切歐洲對於台灣不只是他們的這個所謂駐台代表處非常重視台灣我們在這個歐洲的台僑人數也是成長的"},{"start":4068.274,"end":4080.6,"text":"所以本席是希望透過這一次的預算的部分能夠讓你們提出更具體的計畫在有關於海外青年大使的培育當中能夠更關注歐洲這個部分"},{"start":4089.844,"end":4118.802,"text":"好 我是第24案對這個僑民僑團的這一個相關的聯繫服務工作那這裡頭有去年有一個案子針對某一個宗教這個宗教看起來跟僑民無關我們也補了他錢這個宗教的教義他說這個積極祈禱大顯神威自立兩岸和平統一"},{"start":4121.553,"end":4142.966,"text":"這活動也辦在台灣 個別宗教在台灣這個宗教主張兩岸統一跟僑委會什麼事 僑委會為什麼要補助這種單位 說不清楚如果這種單位都可以補助的話 那一號所有的團隊主張和平統一的都來把僑委會清除"},{"start":4144.048,"end":4149.634,"text":"所以我是提案去年補助這個單位兩萬塊比照這個數字今年就三減兩萬塊"},{"start":4156.691,"end":4159.694,"text":"這個不應該 因為橋委會有給我他們補助的清澈很多都是在海外的橋團的活動 不管補多少有一些是印尼龜橋跟這個越南的 這些都叫橋民有關的到台灣的橋民 就是說他們回來台灣 搬多久 這要補足這沒問題"},{"start":4178.19,"end":4186.412,"text":"你去撥走個別的宗教團體,那些團體你要請去內政部請我們僑委會不需要人家宗教團體,多掛一個名叫僑委會再撥人家所以我是提案能夠刪減兩萬元以上好,謝謝黃委員的提醒,我們以後會多加注意,謝謝黃建斌委員"},{"start":4200.137,"end":4223.165,"text":"好謝謝各位本期提的是21案那我提這案會凍結這案預算主要是因為審計部在113年中央政府總決算的這個審查總報告裡面有指出我們喬爾會在推展海外青年文化大使還有交流的培訓活動裡面但舉辦的地區都是以北美還有亞太地區為主那上代"},{"start":4224.085,"end":4247.596,"text":"推展至海外台灣僑胞人數較多或有潛力的一些國家跟地區那另外就是說實體交流培訓課程參加人數不如預期那後續線上培訓課程參與率也不高那顯然有必要強化該項工作的這個執行的效能那僑會算有到辦公室來說明是因為主要是因為華僑分部因為"},{"start":4249.201,"end":4269.017,"text":"交流這個培訓活動大家都集中在北美跟亞太地區但是交流課程界參加人數整體沒有達到預期這是屬性這確實是事實那本席可以在這案可以同意改列凍結3%那但是強國會也要提出整體的這個培訓的活動還有改善的書面報告才可以來動之"},{"start":4270.577,"end":4295.078,"text":"謝謝黃委員提醒補充說明一下就是我們事實上這兩年都已經有陸續擴大到中南美洲以及歐洲了所以Fastcard的這個培訓是一直有在加強努力那113年的這個決算報告是因為它是前幾年包括112111那因為都有受到疫情影響所以是疫情影響因素才人數有下降現在又慢慢回升了以上補充說明好謝謝"},{"start":4297.789,"end":4311.24,"text":"那其他委員沒有補充說明那我們19到24案24案因為好像要減列嘛減列2萬好那我們19到23案併動50萬19該組"},{"start":4318.546,"end":4331.097,"text":"十九案改組決議那二十到二十三案並動五十萬以二十案林楚英委員提案為主案我們並動五十萬解凍條件提出書面報告經同意後始的動之第二十四案簡列兩萬元科目字條"},{"start":4347.413,"end":4364.562,"text":"現在併案處理25到27案請說明25案到27案分別由李劉徐廷委員馬文君委員及黃仁委員所提案經溝通後同意併動50萬書面報告後使得動之以上說明劉委員"},{"start":4368.955,"end":4395.9,"text":"謝謝主席其實我覺得大家對於這個僑民團體這個相關的一些工作不管是放在這個工作的費用也好或者是服務的業務費用也好或者是後面的計劃費用也好其實大家關心的重點都是一樣的就是希望說僑委會在服務全世界僑民的時候不要有偏重一方的狀況那我剛剛稍微聽了一下說明那前面也有來辦公室做說明那我覺得OK只要跟這個馬委員這邊有達成共識那並動的方式我們是可以接受的以上"},{"start":4397.847,"end":4426.785,"text":"好那我們這個部分本席是26案因為我們看到我們有幾個喬教中心的租金其實現在每年增加的幅度也是非常高雖然說其實大家都有在調漲有很多國家的房價當然這個部分可能有調漲的部分可是我們一直在調漲那像澳洲其實有"},{"start":4427.485,"end":4442.23,"text":"大概我們的台橋人數五萬人也用了兩個橋橋中心而且在布里斯本的這個橋橋中心它從106年度大概一年的租金可能是"},{"start":4445.271,"end":4466.86,"text":"16萬澳幣到現在已經高達23萬多澳幣其實是將近500萬的台幣所以其實它的租金也不低那我們到底它的使用度或者有沒有發揮它的重效我想這個可能也要一併的去考量所以這個部分也請僑委會再提出比較具體的說明那我們同意併動50萬"},{"start":4474.889,"end":4476.13,"text":"是不是書面報告後時的動之我們25到27案以25案紐曲亭委員的提案為主案並動50萬提書面報告經同意後時的動之"},{"start":4488.709,"end":4515.602,"text":"謝謝馬委員的提醒跟馬委員補充說明剛剛有提到我們澳洲的喬教中心主要是兩個那其中有關於雪梨的部分我們在今年已經改為採購案了所以今年採購案完以後我們只剩下Brisbane一案Brisbane一案也會即將排入要做採購案那未來的那個租金就會可以下這部分就減少一些支出兩個都要買下來對 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要標的義務出來才能編這個預算好我們現在的凍結的那個再予以說明好了好我們現在病案處理二八到三十案請說明二八到三十分別由劉徐廷委員馬文君委員及黃建斌委員所提案經溝通後同意改為病棟兩百萬書面報告後使得凍資以上說明謝謝"},{"start":4578.019,"end":4596.035,"text":"本席提案29案這個部分因為我們在海外華語文學習生跟計劃裡面編了大概一億這個是一億的預算其實如果在所有預算裡面其實它也算是不少"},{"start":4597.836,"end":4624.355,"text":"主要好像是要改善一些改善或修善一些硬體的這個空間跟裝置是不是可是我們現在還是要要求提供具體的內容因為我們大概要改六處的地方然後說這些可能是比較老舊可是全部改的都是在美國的那今年"},{"start":4625.476,"end":4646.226,"text":"三個地方要改善休斯頓跟金山灣還有華府都是要一百萬美元就是每一間幾乎要三千多萬的台幣所以到底要改什麼要做什麼要它相關的內容我們都沒有看到比較具體的一個部分那要花掉一億我們還是"},{"start":4646.986,"end":4648.447,"text":"要求要提供比較具體的一個規劃內容或者修繕的標的那我們花了這麼多錢想要的目的是什麼因為說來說明的時候是說要吸引比較年輕的僑胞那怎麼樣可以吸引這些年輕的族群"},{"start":4664.556,"end":4679.308,"text":"到我們的這個喬教中心我們因為今年一億明年也有兩間後年還有一間總共要連續三年都要編列這些相關的預算我們希望他的錢都可以用到位所以同意併動兩百萬不過要提供比較具體的這個修繕或者裝置的這個內容好請劉委員"},{"start":4690.726,"end":4719.762,"text":"謝謝主席我們比較關心的是因為預算中心等等它其實都有提出一些指教就是說各個部會其實因為這個東西華語文的推廣交流等等深耕相關計畫它跟教育部也有關跟文化部也有關可能每個部會都要處理這個事都有編列相關的一些經費到底怎麼樣來統籌有沒有重複編列的問題這都是曾經是預算中心提出來的指教我覺得剛剛除了我們主席馬委員提出來的這樣子比如有關於建設 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使得動之現在併案處理四十五到五十二案請說明四十五到五十二案分別有曲曉清委員 馬文君委員黃仁委員 黃建斌委員 牛許廷委員陳永康委員及王定宇委員所提案第四十五案 四十六案"},{"start":5577.779,"end":5605.964,"text":"四十八案、四十九案、五十到五十二案呢以上幾案是經溝通後呢同意並動一百萬書面報告後使得動之那四十七案呢是這個黃仁委員所提案他是說檢列十萬元科目字條那再來是第五十一案呢是經溝通後陳永康委員同意改為主決議以上說明謝謝"},{"start":5614.301,"end":5627.076,"text":"我們這一次關注這樣預算的原因當然就是信保基金嘛那信保基金決定要再增資那當然增資民間出一部分政府出一部分所以你當然預算上要做一些調整這本席都理解但是預算中心的評估報告有講"},{"start":5627.897,"end":5652.474,"text":"這個受信的保證業績沒有進到顯著的一個成長嘛所以其實關鍵到底是你增資沒有關係嘛但是你到底有沒有有效的去利用這一筆資源嘛讓這一筆資源去變成投資的動力然後讓台商也好等等也好去創造更多的一個商機因此本期要求是當然大家按著說怎麼處理尊重大家討論的一個結果但是本期要求是定期啦就定期提供這個信保基金的業績報告嘛也就是每三個月更新一次有哪些人來爭取"},{"start":5654.415,"end":5671.461,"text":"你壽星的狀況是怎麼樣最後投資的成果是怎麼樣它越清楚越好嘛這樣我們未來再討論這樣的信保基金我要不要再增資等等的時候才有更清楚的一個依據所以我要求我們僑委會每三個月提供一次這個信保基金的報告至少在下一次我們再審查這個預算的時候一切會更清楚明白以上 謝謝好 王定宇委員"},{"start":5677.414,"end":5706.324,"text":"好 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沒理由啦以前我們台灣中小企業是透過貿易商在做生意不是自己那現在自己要往外走你提一個007的瓶箱卡在一個機場你去哪裡找銀行啦不會"},{"start":5850.976,"end":5874.252,"text":"也不通所以這塊如果補上我判斷你們搞不好會創造一塊新的台商出來因為台灣製造的很多的品質只是沒被看見好不好所以我這邊凍結一百萬一樣的希望把這個指標流程建立起來然後我回過頭可以透過達成率KPI來看我們有沒有精進否則我們信保精進只是增加額度然後等煮好草等鳥來"},{"start":5875.493,"end":5880.217,"text":"那現在那個流動資金那麼多未必會來找你們那我們可以提供更積極的服務好不好謝謝王委員提醒那本席是46萬就這個部分因為除了我們在喬商經濟業務海外華人經濟資訊的會收而且也促進這些海外"},{"start":5901.032,"end":5904.494,"text":"國內外的商機的交流可是我們在114年度我們有辦了台灣連鎖加盟產業參訪團還有國際醫療產業邀訪團智慧自動化產業邀訪團還有航太機無人機產業的邀訪團"},{"start":5920.164,"end":5932.282,"text":"這個單次的決標金額大概都達到130萬可是參與的人數並不多大概都25、26人左右那我們這些參訪團它我們主要的目的是什麼"},{"start":5933.985,"end":5961.488,"text":"跟委員說明我們這個每一團的上限都只能到30人所以25 26 27已經算是高的參與率了都到8成5以上那他們其實都是相關的業者他們希望能夠掌握台灣這邊產業的一些優勢跟最新的發展那他們也可以在海外的時候介紹一些相關的投資方案大家兩邊可以做一些對接所以來參與者基本上是經過這樣的挑選全部都是在海外他們也是相關產業的對對對對"},{"start":5963.089,"end":5981.61,"text":"所以可是你像剛剛有25 26人其實還有一個是13人的其實很低這個就是自動化產業邀訪團的部分所以我們在這個部分當然人數是一個部分可是他要怎麼樣達到那個效果因為如果13人其實是已經偏低了我們的所有我們"},{"start":5983.973,"end":5999.593,"text":"一定要設定超過15人我們才會開團所以因為我們也評估那個成本效益我們最高上限是30人那所以如果沒有超過15人的團我們最後會把它做改變去年應該有13人沒關係這個部分大概就是這樣因為我們去年是10人最低10人"},{"start":6002.617,"end":6017.822,"text":"那一班是10人就可以開班的所以性質不太一樣你不是開班我們是邀訪團我們現在是說他來的目的或者他可以達到什麼樣的效果我們現在因為我們幾乎每次的活動都會編列這樣的金額有好幾個團體去年大概四個"},{"start":6026.812,"end":6034.114,"text":"也是500多萬那今年可能更多今年是660幾萬所以這些來的對象我們要來那都沒有關係可是我們要很明確的知道他是做什麼樣的交流或者他看了以後他可以提供給我們什麼樣的一個資訊因為他們在海外如果他們也是從事相關的這些行業那又是台灣可以取經的部分或者"},{"start":6051.797,"end":6071.553,"text":"我們台灣本身的量能我們的自己本來也很強那他們也可以做什麼樣來參訪以後可以有什麼樣的交流那我們看不到我們的成果就是你只是邀人來那沒有意義所以你大概編列的這個相關的預算這個部分要提供我們提供多一點的資料說明 謝謝好 改組決議好"},{"start":6079.206,"end":6082.447,"text":"第47案 簡列10萬元第51案 改列組決議第45 46 48 49 50 52"},{"start":6104.845,"end":6114.933,"text":"主案 以46案 馬文君委員提案為主案並動100萬題書面報告金同意厚實的動之謝謝委員好 我們現在對 今天華人委員沒有出席這案沒關係 妳已經有同意 因為我有簽所以我們就簡列15萬科目字條好 科目字條"},{"start":6134.669,"end":6144.411,"text":"53案請說明53案是馬文君委員所提案經溝通後呢委員表示要減50萬動100萬只有動結50萬 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而是其實就它不應該用因為我們在還沒有審過之前你們居然可以侵併人員這個其實是深耕計畫裡面的只是把它移到以前放在深耕計畫的喬叫處現在把它喬叫處移出來那邊就會有錢啊"},{"start":8488.015,"end":8499.429,"text":"以前是放在喬教處裡面執行那因為他們專業不夠沒有那邊已經沒有編了就是移出來移到他們這邊來他不可以用今年沒有這個這個預算還沒有沒有委員這個是舊的科目這是舊的科目"},{"start":8503.254,"end":8525.885,"text":"不然我們不敢動新科目我絕對不敢動委員長他不可以用這個因為他是人事他在沒有這樣相關的人員的編列底下沒有同意他不可以這樣用那委員可不可以動3減100就好了好不好拜託就是我們人事費也就只有100而已沒有啊那你現在你用了怎麼辦在我們還沒通過的時候怎麼可以用"},{"start":8531.089,"end":8535.85,"text":"委員這個本來不是新的項目我剛剛已經說明了他這個不是含在不是有原來的業務你要徵人就可以徵人不是這樣子所以我們為什麼會特別提出來是因為沒有第一沒有尊重我們在審查的這個過程當中應該要注意的部分另外其實你有很多的商家費我沒有很"},{"start":8558.089,"end":8567.958,"text":"很嚴格的去說這個部分那我們還是希望你把它簡列下來好 那委員不要這麼多啦好不好 減少一點啦真的 拜託因為我們好不容易剛剛跟黃建斌委員也達成這個協議了對 因為我們的這個如果您再刪五百 他又刪一百那等於就全部刪掉啦我們就沒有了沒有啦 他那個就不一樣的預算同一個科目 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准照辦理照案通過96案 准照辦理照案通過97案 准照辦理好 我們接下來還有新增的組決議請議事人員宣讀"},{"start":8807.234,"end":8811.418,"text":"97之一案 僑務委員會接待反國參加國慶慶典之僑胞人數已由民國108年之6207人逐年下降至114年之3937人減幅明顯面對僑胞參與的意願下降情形相關活動規劃宣傳方式"},{"start":8828.254,"end":8843.554,"text":"及支援投入配置均予以通盤檢討研議更具吸引力與實質效益之交流模式以提升僑胞反國參與意願及政策推動之成果提案人為馬文君等人第九十七之二案"},{"start":8844.836,"end":8861.918,"text":"為維護兵役制度公平性並防度身份認定正義內政部修正規劃我國國籍者及歸國僑民服役辦法明定僑民依然須檢附僑委委員會合法之義正用華僑身份證明書作為僑民身份認定依據"},{"start":8863.413,"end":8882.006,"text":"请侨务委员会持续检讨并评估推动更多数位化及便民措施进一步降低侨民返台办理之时间与经济成本提案人委员林楚英等人第97之3案侨务委员会于本年度起将进行北美六个侨教中心之软硬体优化"},{"start":8883.208,"end":8900.079,"text":"为有效提升我国的国际能见度,增加有我力量,侨务委员会因延伤与其他部位合作之可行性,并请侨务委员会以三个月内向立法院外交及国防委员会提出书面报告,提案人委员沈伯扬等人第97支事案。"},{"start":8900.979,"end":8917.712,"text":"侨务委员会与检讨甄选机制、区域名额配置及多元族群参与措施演绎提升中南部新住民及原住民学生参与机会以落实青年赔利与国际交流政策之公平性及代表性提案人委员刘许婷等人"},{"start":8918.212,"end":8943.198,"text":"第97之5案 鑒於推動i喬卡之目的不僅在於提升申辦數量 更在於建立全球全球僑胞數位服務入口 原請僑務委員會持續檢視各地區申辦及使用情形 針對申辦率偏低地區強化宣導之策略 並積極拓展符合僑胞需求之特約商店及優惠內容提案人委員陳俊宇等人第97之6案"},{"start":8945.939,"end":8963.58,"text":"建議推動i喬卡之目的,不僅在於提升申辦數量,更在於建立全球僑胞數位服務入口。原件請僑委員會持續檢視各地區申辦及使用情形,針對申辦率偏低之地區強化宣導之策略。提案人委員盧美玲等人。"},{"start":8964.241,"end":8992.481,"text":"第九十七之七案建於全球各地僑界持續辦理台灣日等活動面對推廣台灣形象原要求僑務委員會結合海外僑界支援及相關活動將捍衛援助民主文化至於台灣日和台灣周知活動並於兩個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案人委員牛許廷等人第九十七之八案僑務委員會為培育海外"},{"start":8994.056,"end":9013.625,"text":"台藝青年發展及深化其跨區域交流推展海外青年文化大使及交流培訓活動為舉辦地區以北美及亞太地區為主上代推展至海外台灣僑胞人數較多或具有潛力之國家或地區提案人委員盧美玲等人第九十七之九案"},{"start":9014.565,"end":9036.267,"text":"援助民主文化及援助民主語言為臺灣多元文化之重要資產,兼具南島文化特色及國際交流價值,應透過跨部會合作與資源之整合,適度納入海外華語文推廣及文化交流相關業務。請僑委委員會以兩個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告,提案人委員劉許廷等人。"},{"start":9037.808,"end":9060.54,"text":"第九十七之十案 建請僑務委員會針對海外華語文學習深耕計畫推動過程中與相關部會之合作協調及政府資源盤點以立政策追蹤及提升國家總體戰略資源之整合中校提案人委員羅美玲等人第九十七之十一案 僑務委員會一百一十五年度編列一億五百萬元於海外"},{"start":9061.34,"end":9072.796,"text":"信用保證基金原僑務委員會應積極督導該基金持續加強推展業務提供對海外僑台商資融資服務提案人委員林楚英等人第97之12案"},{"start":9075.482,"end":9099.961,"text":"僑務委員會應積極督導財團法人海外信用保證基金持續加強推展業務提供海外僑台商資融資服務達成政府資源中效最大化提案人委員陳永康等人第九十七之十三案僑務委員會第六目向下輔導海外僑生來台升學級畢業留台編列預算一千一百五十五萬四千元僑務委員會予以分析"},{"start":9101.963,"end":9121.434,"text":"計專端流失原因檢討實施檢討實習權益保障機制及針對如何提升僑生畢業留台率之提出改善方案以落實培育留用成效及避免國家資源虛職提案人委員劉雪婷等人第九十七知識事案僑務委員會應積極檢討海外"},{"start":9123.815,"end":9141.655,"text":"社群傳媒營運之執行成效及平衡各地區之落差以維護海外僑胞資訊取得之權益提案人委員盧美玲等人第九十七之十五案僑務委員會因經濟檢討並經濟各社群平台之經營策略定期解釋內部規劃"},{"start":9143.297,"end":9143.457,"text":"97 之 1 案"},{"start":9160.506,"end":9172.986,"text":"遵照辦理好 照案通過97之2案遵照辦理照案通過97之3案遵照辦理照案通過97之4案遵照辦理照案通過97之5案遵照辦理"},{"start":9174.127,"end":9183.313,"text":"召喚通過97-6案 准照辦理召喚通過97-7案 准照辦理召喚通過97-8案 准照辦理召喚通過97-9案 准照辦理召喚通過97-10案 准照辦理召喚通過97-11案 准照辦理"},{"start":9193.52,"end":9200.085,"text":"好 張安通過97-12案 遵照辦理張安通過97-13案 遵照辦理張安通過97-14案 遵照辦理張安通過97-15案 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